Quotes with Attitude from Jewish Talmud
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don talbot
4/3/2002 (22:20)
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QUOTES 'WITH ATTITUDE' FROM JEWISH TALMUD.

If you're into sex with 3 year old girls, or any child under 9, and think nothing of it, then
read on: this book - The Talmud, could be for you!

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl.
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than
nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.

So where are all today's anti child pornography investigators and agents? Why aren't you
confiscating and banning this book which promotes the above evils? Why aren't you
arresting those who are promoting and feeding off this filth? Could it be because the above
quotes are from the Jewish holy book - The Talmud? I've provided references for each
quote! Look them up for yourself!

In case you don't know anything about this holy of holy manuscript, its history, and what
can be found within its dirty sheets: keep reading.

It's said Jewish Scribes received the Talmud partly as a collection of traditions given to
them from Moses in oral form.

This very brief study and its authenticated references are based on the Jewish-authorized
Babylonian Talmud.

With the hope of helping liberate all people from the corrosive delusions and racism of
this Talmudic hate literature, I have presented herein irrefutable documentation which is
the manual of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews the world over.

The implementation by Jewish supremacists of Talmudic hate literature has caused
untold suffering throughout history and today, in occupied Palestine, it is used as a
justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians. The Talmud specifically defines
all who are not Jews as non-human animals.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Where a Jew Should Do Evil

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he
is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by
being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no
liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment
is to be in full.

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ('heathen') it does
not have to be returned.

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew
steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has
'exposed their money to Israel.'

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ('subterfuges') to circumvent a Gentile.

WAIT! THERE'S MORE!
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a
Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a
Jewish priest.
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won
the debate.
Gittin 70a. On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual
intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the
privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every
day: 'Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.'

What Jewish Scholars Are Saying:

Rabbi Meir Kahane, told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are 'dogs' is
derived 'from the Talmud.' (CBS 60 Minutes, 'Kahane').

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's
philosophy: 'They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against
goyim,' a Hebrew term for non-Jews. (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, 'We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the
blood of a goy are not the same thing.' (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, 'One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.'
(NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

ENTER THE US GOVERNMENT.

U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts:
The US government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under
the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public
Law 102-14), a groundwork for the establishment of Talmudic 'courts of justice'
to be administered by disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi
Menachem Mendel Schneerson.


GOD SAVE US ALL!!


reply by
Adolf Hitler
4/3/2002 (22:34)
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Don - Why weren't you at the book burning last night?


Sieg Heil!
AH
reply by
egyptian
4/3/2002 (22:36)
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No this is serious please let a knowledgable jew answer him/her !!!!
peace
reply by
Ozzie Hooper
4/3/2002 (22:46)
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Is the Talmud one of the Hebrews first books? How old is this doctrine?
Can I find a copy to confirm these exerpts?

reply by
_
4/3/2002 (24:01)
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http://jews-for-allah.org/Jewish-Converts-to-Islam/muslimnotzionist.htm


Why I Reverted From Judaism To Islam
from brother Fouad's site here: http://www.JewsToIslam.com


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MARHABA WELCOME TO MY WEBSITE :)

I would like to take a few moments out to describe my journey to the one true faith Islam.Due to the fact that I live in the Zionist Entity names and small details must be changed as to protect me from the deviant monkies that occupy this land at present.


About 3 years ago I was in a jewish chat room,joking with my fellow co-religonists talking non sence and just kinda hanging out.Some guy kept coming into the room and really rankng on about 'israe'.Even though I was a Jew at the time I didnt like 'israel' and always felt what was going on was against Judaism and humanity.One day I decided I would talk to this anti 'israel' guy.As Allah willed it we spoke the entire eve.It ends up he is a devout Muslim! He kept posing questions to me over a 2 year period and had MANY strong points.Being that I was an orthodox Jew who did learn in Yeshiva, I confronted many Rabbis with these arguments he gave me.I have not to this day recieved a a good or true answer.Asper the problem of 'israel' and its blatent contradiction to Judaism and the Talmud in Tractate Ketubot 111á , they were all weak on that point aswell.


I think what really pushed me towards the truth was that Jews dont believe God is the Greater in EVREY aspect than man.In fact jews believe that Rabbis are even smarter than God Himself! here is the case in point this is a Talmud that evrey religous Jew believes........Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.......Now to Islam this is Shirq or a form of disbelief. In Yeshiva the meaning of this Talmud or 'Peshat' as they refer to it is like this...'God is happy that the Rabbi beat Him with his God given ability of thought!'The Jews go on to say 'Judgement in this world is in the Rabbis hands, but in the next world its in God's.


Alhumdililah Thank God today I have left the Jewish cesspool and excepted Islam as the only Truth and Word of Allah.My family and I live in a nice Muslim area in Palestine,and thanks to Allah and my wonderful Palestinian Muslim brothers and sisters continue to grow in Quran and the Sunnah.My kids today are the happiest subhan Allah, now they are free from the restrictive man made laws of present day Judaism, and are free to learn knowledge from others besides the Rabbis.


I really have alot more to say so if you email me I would be glad to reply insh Allah. My email is muslimnotzionist@hotmail.com

I would like to end this webpage with a few other statements from Judaisms Holy Book the Talmud.

Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.


Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years 'and a day' old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. 'When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.'

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: 'On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic.'

Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ('catarrh') a Jew should 'take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs.'

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.




Are you a Jew for Allah ? please send us your conversion story, we would love to hear from you, our e-mail is feedback@convertstoIslam.org


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_
4/3/2002 (24:11)
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reply by
don
4/4/2002 (8:38)
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And don't think Islam is any better:
According to the FBI, the definition of terrorism is:

'Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.'



The religion of Islam fulfills each and every criteria of the above-mentioned definition of terrorism. The following irrefutable facts and deductive logic will amply demonstrate this statement. Ever since Islam was founded it has left behind a legacy of violent atrocities and horrible crimes. The holy book of the Muslims, the Koran, contains specific instructions on how to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder in order to further the interests of Islam . It can clearly be called a specific instruction manual of terrorism.



The Holy Koran is full of very unholy and terrorist ambitions, it is obviously not from God, as the Muslims would have us believe. Any sane individual can see that it is a journal and collection of a terrorist’s criminal activities and ideas. This terrorist’s name is Mohammed (popularly known as the prophet of Islam). During his lifetime, Mohammed organized at least 86 expeditions against people who either refused to follow his teachings or simply came in the way of his power crazed ambitions. He led the life of a serial killer, terrorist and rapist, who perpetrated genocide throughout Arabia. Along with the pagan Arabs, many Jews and Christians were victims of this mindless terrorist. Mohammed was a man who destroyed peace wherever he went, and in its place brought terror, carnage and death. And he did all this in the name of God! Mohammed has clearly stated in the Koran that God has instructed him and all pious Muslims to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder innocent human beings, in order to further the interests of Islam.



I have stated below just a few of the verses from the Koran, which support this fact. As the Koran is supposed to be timeless and universal, the verses in it hold true even today and are used everyday by pious Muslims to justify their brutal and terrorist activities.


1. (Koran 8:12) 'Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): 'I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them.'



In the above verse the great prophet of Islam, Mohammed, is giving step by step instructions on how to torture and kill the unbelievers if they don't follow Islam. He is clearly instructing Muslims to commit cold-blooded murder in the name of religion.



2. (Koran 2:216) 'Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not.'



The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first terrorist attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the 'great' prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents.



By stating the above verse, Mohammed completely absolved himself from all blame for having murdered innocents. The most insidious and devilish implication of this verse is that God is completely justifying Mohammed’s murder of the innocent Meccans. The import of this verse is that killing and violence are JUSTIFIED for Muslims, because they are doing it by divine ordinance! It is a religious duty of every Muslim to murder anyone who comes in the way of Islam. Since it is also the duty of every Muslim to ensure that the entire world is converted to Islam by force if necessary, one must directly conclude that it is the religious duty of Muslims to kill all those who are non-Muslim. This conclusion is derived directly from the supreme edict of Allah, who admonishes that even the Muslim who feels it is wrong to kill, must murder in the name of Allah, otherwise he is not a true Muslim. Over and above this, Mohammed is hypocritically implying that warfare is hateful to him, but he participated in it because God ordained it.



3. (Koran 69:30-37) 'It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise.. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful.'



This verse is in reference to the prisoners that Mohammed held for ransom after the battle of Badr. This battle occurred on March 17, 623 AD. This is the month of Ramadan—another sacred month for the Muslims! In this battle, Mohammed and his followers killed at least 70 innocent merchants from the Quraysh tribe of Mecca and slaughtered several hundred soldiers who came forward to defend them.



Here God the 'Merciful' is saying that all the non-believers deserve to be killed! In addition, God is conveniently commenting that whatever loot Mohammed has plundered is 'lawful and good' because it was done in service to God. So murder, rape, plunder and destruction are all perfectly legal with the Muslim God as long as they are done in the name of Islam! Mohammed is also insidiously making himself seem very kind for having spared the lives of the prisoners, when in fact he only let them live so he could ransom their lives for more money. In today’s world this is called 'taking hostages' and defines 'Terrorism' of the worst kind.



4. (Koran 69:30-37) '(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in God the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat.'



The above verses from the Koran prove that Muslims are specifically instructed not to tolerate unbelievers. It directly states that people who do not believe in Mohammed and the Islamic God are to be tortured and murdered.. Not only does this verse clearly implicate that unbelievers must be tortured and killed, it goes on further to state prescribed methods for committing torture. The horrific acts mentioned above are in practice even today in Islamic countries. In fact, in India, Muslims tortured the Sikh Gurus and their families exactly as prescribed by the Koran. For example, the Sikh guru Tegh Bahadur was imprisoned in a cage like a wild animal, when he refused to forsake his religion for Islam. Three of his disciples were murdered in front of his eyes. One of them was Bhai Mati Das. He was sawed alive into little pieces. The other was wrapped up in cotton and burnt alive. Bhai Dyala, the third one, was boiled alive in a cauldron. Guru Tegh Bahadur himself was brutally tortured and killed in a similar fashion. One wonders at the mercy of 'The all beneficent Allah' who enjoys watching the roasted burnt flesh of hapless innocents falling off their bones.



5. (Koran 5: 33-34) 'The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is forgiving, merciful.'



6. (Koran 22: 19-22) 'These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid will be poured down their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning.'



7. (Koran 76: 4) 'Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire.'



The above verses clearly state extreme terrorist activities, as they contain nothing but detailed recipes of horrific torture. Cutting off the hands and feet of individuals and then making them walk and jump, pouring boiling waters over their victims, making them drink it, burning them alive, inserting hot iron rods into their bodies, dismemberment and disembowelment, genital mutilation etc. are common Islamic practices.


I have mentioned only a few of the verses from the Koran to show that Islam is nothing but an excuse to legalize terrorism, genocide, massacre and other criminal activities. Many other verses that demonstrate these specific qualities, are to be found throughout the Koran . As Muslims worldwide regard the Koran to be the ultimate holy book, it is followed to the word. Their daily lives are guided specifically by such passages from the Koran . Moreover, the terrorist, lecherous and criminal activities described in the Koran are considered to be the sacred words of God. Is it any wonder that mindless Muslims all over the world, justify their criminal activities of destruction, loot, torture, rape and murder by pointing to the Koran? They actually consider their acts to be holy and believe that for committing such holy acts they will go to paradise—a paradise where they will have plenty of wine, women and young boys for their sexual pleasure. (How Mohammed uses bribery in the Koran to attract mindless human beings is above the scope of this article and will be described in later ones).



Today, many followers of Islam such as Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, Momar Gaddafi, Louis Farrakhan, Yasser Arafat, Dawood Ibrahim, Abu Nidal, etc. are famed for the brutality of their crimes and terrorism. The entire world is marred by violence and murder, wherever Muslims reside. The entire world is suffering due to the barbaric activities of Islamic terrorists. Pick up a newspaper today and you will note that 98% of terrorist activities that occur involve Muslims. I have named a few of the countries below as examples:


(1) India - Muslims have been terrorizing this country since the 7th century AD. Muslim regimes throughout India have a record of unparalleled terror and torture described in gory detail by contemporary Muslim chronicles themselves. Subjecting all non-Muslims to abject atrocities, plundering their wealth, abducting their women and usurping their houses of worship to be used as mosques and tombs, has been considered sacred duty of every Muslim. Such acts earned for the tormentors the coveted title of Ghazi, to be paraded as a citation of great Islamic glory and greatness. Aurangzeb, one of the last Muslim emperors had 10,000 Hindus massacred everyday for an entire year. He alone was responsible for the massacre of at least 3,650,000 Hindus and destruction of more than 11,000 Hindu temples. William Durant, author of the voluminous 'Story of Civilization' has described the Muslim conquests in India as constituting the saddest and goriest chapter in human history. Muslims have destroyed and looted the whole country and have killed countless innocent Hindus in the process.



The Muslims forced the violent partition of India into three parts in 1947 (India, West Pakistan and East Pakistan). Even today, they terrorize the innocent people of India by causing bomb blasts and killing innocent individuals. Currently, the followers of Islam are concentrating their efforts in Kashmir, a northern state in India. Kashmir has been the land of the Hindus since ancient times. The word Kashmir itself is derived from Rishi Kashyap—a great spiritual leader of Hinduism. The Muslims have destroyed this beautiful land completely. Today the Pakistan-sponsored Muslim terrorists continue to kill, torture and rape the innocent Hindus of Kashmir. To cite the most recent incidents: In a cold-blooded massacre on the night of January 25th 1998, 23 Kashmiri Hindus, including 10 women and four children, were gunned down by a group of Islamic terrorists from Pakistan in Wandhama, 27 km from Srinagar. On April 19th Islamic terrorists belonging to the Pakistani Lashkar-e-Tobia terrorist organization claimed responsibility for gunning down at least 13 Kashmiri Hindus in Prankot village near Mahore in Udhampur district. The victims included four women and two children. Pakistan’s aim is to separate Kashmir from India and declare it as an Islamic state. I will provide you with more information on Islamic terrorism in India and Kashmir in a separate article.



(2) The Assyrian Nation - The horrible crimes committed by Islamic terrorists against the Assyrian nation is a well documented fact. Between 1980 and 1988 the Iraqi regime exiled thousands of Iraqi citizens to Iran on the charges that they were of Persian ancestry. Many Assyrians were targeted in this illegal and barbarous act. During this bloody war, it is estimated that up to 10,000 Assyrian men from Iraq were killed. The most disturbing aspect of this tragedy is that many of these Assyrians were killed in cold blood by their own Arab countrymen, just for being Assyrians. On December 13th 1997, a group of militants belonging to the Kurdish Labour Party (PKK), treacherously attacked six Assyrians through an ambush laid for them in the district of Mangeesh-Duhok, Northern Iraq. Two of them were killed immediately and the others were wounded, then the armed group charged over them and cold-bloodedly killed the wounded.



Ever since the invasion of their homelands by barbaric Muslims, the Assyrians have been fighting for their rights. The persecution of Assyrian Christians by the Islamic terrorists has brought them to the brink of extinction!



(3) Bangladesh - Bangladesh was a part of India before the Muslim terrorists led by Mohammed Ali Jinnah separated it from India in 1947. It was then called East Pakistan. Jinnah lied to the thirteen million Hindus, Buddhists and Christians in East Pakistan and told them that they would not be persecuted against. He promised that they would be given full freedom under the Islamic rule. However, these religious minorities—especially the Hindus and the Buddhists have been tortured, raped and murdered by the pious Muslims ever since 1947. Over 2.5 million Hindus alone were slaughtered during the Pakistan-Bangladesh war in 1971. The types of crimes committed were perfectly in accordance with the Koran. Robert E. Burns, the author of Wrath of Allah states, 'The mutilation was disgusting—eyes gouged out, pregnant women disemboweled, male genitals cut off, women’s breasts cut off…..'



The persecution of 'unbelievers' in the name of Allah , continues even today in Bangladesh under the Islamic rule. For example, Taslima Nasreen, the author of Lajja was given a death sentence for just stating the facts and speaking against the inhumane, cruel and barbaric nature of Islam.



(4) Egypt - Egypt has been terrorized by Muslims since the time of Umar II (8th Century AD.). With Umar’s raid on Egypt began the destruction of Egypt’s Christians. Their Churches were destroyed, Umar imposed Jizya—a special tax that was invented by Mohammed , where all the 'non-believers' had to pay or face death. They lost ownership of all their land and had to pay a special land tax, kharaj, simply in order to use it . They were ridiculed, made to wear discriminatory clothing and were made to ride on donkeys. Anyone not complying with the wishes of the Islamic terrorists was tortured to death in absolute accordance with the Koran. The ongoing Islamic terrorist attacks on innocent people in Egypt even today prove that Islamic terrorism is alive and kicking in this country as well. In this country the tourists are special targets of the Muslim terrorists. Just last year in Cairo, the pious followers of Mohammed murdered an entire bus load of German tourists. In another incident, Muslim fundamentalists killed more than 40 tourists near the Pyramids.



The terrorists continue to commit these horrible crimes to achieve their goal of declaration of Egypt as an Islamic state. An Islamic state is desired by these terrorists, so that they will be able to commit more such crimes freely. As per the Koran, they will go to the typical Islamic Paradise for committing these 'holy' acts! Apparently, the most important condition by far, for entering 'Jannat' (Islamic Heaven) is that you must have the blood of innocents, stained on your hands!



(5) Algeria - Algeria has been under Islamic terrorist attack for quite some time now. Accurate casualty figures are difficult to acquire, but as many as 50,000 Algerians (militants, security personnel, and civilians) have died as a result of the nearly four-year-old insurgency. Even the U.S. embassy's warehouse was the target of Islamic terrorists. They set fire to the warehouse and threatened to kill the security guard just because he was working for the United States. The Islamic terrorist organization which carries out most of these attacks is called GIA (Algerian Armed Islamic Group). The GIA was responsible for the deaths of 31 foreigners in Algeria in 1995, compared to at least 64 in 1994. Most of the foreigners killed were 'soft targets,' such as teachers and nuns. Cowardly Islamic terrorists, conform to this pattern of targeting the most vulnerable and helpless segment of the population, in imitation of Prophet Mohammed's life. From July to October, a terrorist bombing campaign in France began against civilian targets, killing eight persons and wounding 160. And such attacks continue on even today in Algeria.



(6) Pakistan - Like East Pakistan (Bangladesh), Pakistan was also founded by the terrorist leader, Mohammed Ali Jinnah. Ever since its foundation, Pakistan has sponsored terrorism and Islamic terrorist groups all over the world. Pakistan’s main focus of terrorist activity has always been India. This nation is obsessed with the downfall of India and will do anything to accomplish this goal. It has gone to war with India three times in the past and failed miserably all three times. Pakistan continues to support Islamic terrorist organizations such as Harakat ul-Ansar (HUA) and Al-Faran. Al-Faran is the group that claimed responsibility for the kidnapping in Kashmir of two US citizens, two Britons, a German, and a Norwegian. Other Pakistan-backed groups have claimed responsibility for numerous bombings in Kashmir, including one against foreign journalists.



It is a well-known fact today that Pakistan is an Islamic terrorist state. The mastermind of the World Trade Center bombing hailed from Pakistan. The Islamic terrorists in Kashmir are trained and supplied by Pakistan. There is even proof that Pakistan is supporting and helping the Taliban—the barbaric Islamic organization of Afghanistan.


Many other countries such as Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, Syria, Indonesia, Israel, Libya, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Mauritania, Cyprus, Bosnia-Herzegovina, etc. can be added to the above list.



As we can clearly see Muslims are actively committing acts of terrorism in many other parts of the world and justifying it by pointing towards the Koran. Even the West is not untouched anymore. The fact that countries such as the U.K, U.S.A and France have already experienced Islamic terrorism first hand is a testament to this. It remains to be seen whether countries such as these will learn from the past and recognize Islam for what it is—a religious sanction to legalize barbaric and horrific crimes! I urge each and everyone to read the Koran, the terrorist's instruction manual, for their own personal safety. It is necessary to know what you are up against before you can begin to defend yourself.



This is just a simple introduction to Islamic terrorism. I intend to post more such articles that contain many more such proofs to show that Islam is nothing but an excuse to legalize terrorist activities and other such crimes. In order to realize this, one must first understand that Islam itself was founded for the sole purpose of terrorizing, subjugating, massacring and torturing non-Muslims in the name of Allah. Mohammed, the founder of Islam composed the entire Koran in order to justify his terrorist activities and crimes by false Divine injunctions.
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4/4/2002 (17:42)
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MUHAMMAD, ISLAM, AND TERRORISM

by Silas

INTRODUCTION



The actions of Islamic terrorist groups operating throughout the world are well known. Islamic terrorists have bombed and destroyed buildings, planes, and vehicles. Additionally, during the last 20 years, Muslim terrorists have targeted and murdered tens of thousands of males, females, adults, and children. All over the world, in Kenya, Algeria, Indonesia, Egypt, Iran, France, South America and America, etc., Muslim terrorists have attacked and murdered those they felt were a threat to their aims. No one has been spared by these treacherous people.



Not surprisingly, examination of the websites that deal with terrorism show that about one half of all terrorist groups in the world are Islamic in nature.



Why are these groups Islamic? What does the religion of Islam have to do with terrorism? Is there a link between the two? How do these groups justify murdering civilians based upon Islamic values? Are terrorism and murder actually allowed under Islam?



This article examines the basis for Islamic terrorism found within Islam. Starting with Muhammad and reviewing his teachings and his actions, and then visiting what other Muslims have taught, the fundamentals of Islamic terrorism will be examined.





NOTES



1) My comments or source references will be in [ ] type brackets. Other writers comments will be in the ( ) type brackets.





2) When I talk about terrorist actions, I am talking about motive and action. Crime exists in every society, and I am not including all crimes as examples of terrorism. I am focusing on the violent actions Muslims carry out in the name of Islam. For example, in Egypt some years ago, a Muslim man murdered an American women. He killed her then robbed her. His motive was greed, not the furtherance of Islam. I would not call that an Islamic terrorist action. On the other hand, Muslims who carry out bombings, like the ones in Kenya and Tanzania - in which hundreds of innocents died, do so because they feel they are attacking their enemies and have Allah's sanction to do so. That is a terrorist action.



Additionally, there are many kinds of terrorists who engage in violence. There are political terrorists operating in South America, there are terrorists who murder doctors who perform abortion. There are Communist terrorists, capitalist terrorists, right wing terrorists, left wing terrorists, etc. In America, there are gangs that operate like terrorists. However, in this writing, I am focusing on terrorism based upon what Muhammad taught and did. I am focusing on Muslims, who for the sake of Islam, commit violent acts of terrorism. But I want all readers to know that I note that there are many non-Muslim terrorists operating in the world. Some of these other terrorists are every bit as vicious as Muslim terrorists.





3) A 'terrorist' is defined as 'one who engages in acts of terrorism'. 'Terrorism' is defined as 'the unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.'









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MUHAMMAD'S EARLY ACTIONS AND TEACHINGS



When Muhammad started out preaching his religion of Islam he was not violent. He was persecuted for preaching his religious ideas - Islam - and denigrating the pagan religions of the Meccans. Some of Muhammad's followers were tortured. Things were so bad for him and his few followers that he sent many of them to Abyssinia [Ethiopia] for refuge. Eventually, he and his followers moved north to a city called Yathrib [Medina], where some members of two Arab tribes wanted Muhammad to be their prophet.









BEGINNING OF MUHAMMAD'S VIOLENCE



Just prior to Muhammad's leaving for Medina, he received a 'revelation' allowing him to fight the Meccans. He knew that in Medina, he had a group of armed men who would support him. Furthermore, in Medina, would be more distant from the Meccans and their attempts to oppress or kill him. The following is from 'The Life of Muhammad', page 212, by A. Guillaume, which is a rendering of Ibn Ishaq's 'Sirat Rasulallah', a biography of Muhammad written by an early Muslim scholar [1].





'THE APOSTLE RECEIVES THE ORDER TO FIGHT



The apostle had not been given permission to fight or allowed to shed blood before the second Aqaba [a place where a pledge was made between Muhammad and his followers from Medina]. He had simply been ordered to call men to God and to endure insult and forgive the ignorant. The Quraysh [a leading group of Meccans] had persecuted his followers, seducing some from their religion and exiling others from their country. They had to choose whether to give up their religion, be maltreated at home, or to flee the country, some to Abyssinia, others to Medina.



When Quraysh became insolent towards God and rejected His gracious purpose, accused His prophet of lying, and ill treated and exiled those who served Him and proclaimed His unity, believed in His prophet and held fast to His religion, He gave permission to His apostle to fight and to protect himself against those who wronged them and treated them badly......[a]

The meaning is 'I have allowed them to fight only because they have been unjustly treated while their sole offense against men has been that they worship God. When they are in the ascendant they will establish prayer, pay the poor-tax, enjoin kindness, and forbid iniquity, i.e., the prophet and his companions all of them.' Then God sent down to him: 'Fight them so that there be no more seduction,' [b] i.e. until no believer is seduced from his religion. 'And the religion is God's,', i.e. Until God alone is worshipped.'



END OF QUOTE

[Note: two passages from the Quran are referenced: [a] Sura 22:39-41, which I did not quote, and [b] Sura 2:193]





Two critical points here:



1) in Mecca, where Muhammad was weak, he attacked no one. He only preached his religion and insulted the Meccan's religions. But it was just prior to his leaving for Medina, where he had a limited amount of armed men to support him, that he received this 'revelation' and began to use violence to further his desires. Islamic history shows that as Muslims grew in power their forms of violence changed from criminal terrorism to outright warfare.



2) At the end of the quote, it says that Muslims are to fight those that do not worship Allah.





I also comment on Ibn Ishaq's work. When reading this passage from Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad is made to appear to be long suffering and primarily fighting in self defense, and that up until just before Muhammad's departure, the Meccan persecution was tolerable, but that it became so bad that Muhammad was finally given permission to fight back.



The problem with this is that Muhammad had been severely persecuted prior to this and that Muslims had been abused well before their departure. In other words, the quoted passage is apologetic work on Ibn Ishaq's part. Earlier, well before the Treaty of Aqaba, things were so bad for Muhammad that he went to a town called Taif to seek their help and protection [Guillaume, op cit, page 192]. The Taifians rejected and abused him. Things were so bad for Muhammad in Mecca, Muhammad had to beg three men for their protection [Guillaume, op cit, page 194].



In Mecca, Muhammad continued to proclaim himself as a prophet and he was abused all the more. He never received any 'revelations' to fight at that time.



Eventually, good fortune fell into Muhammad's lap and just as in Adolph Hitler's case, his persistence paid off. A group of feuding Arabs in Medina accepted him as their prophet. They hoped he could help them maintain peace. They eventually made a pledge to support Muhammad in war against the Quraysh [Guillaume, op cit, page 205]. Now Muhammad knew he had an able and armed following. It was only when he had a following that could defend themselves, and his people were migrating north to Medina, and that he knew he was going to leave town, that suddenly 'Allah' gave Muhammad his 'revelation' to fight. Muhammad's circumstances changed, and Muhammad's Allah changed with them. Muhammad went from being only a 'warner' to being an aggressor.
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OZZIEHOOPER
4/4/2002 (19:52)
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I don't know who interpreted these verses in that context but Islam does not advocate violence. It does promote self defense (which is highly needed in today's exploitations of the weak).

I have read the Koran page to page in Arabic, and no where does it say loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture or murder in order to further the interests of Islam.

In Mohammed's days, the persecutions and oppression (of anyone not Christian) of Muslims & Jews was physically very real, and fighting via the 'sword' was the only way for the believers of Islam to prevail. Like any Religion, there were those that became inflated and took on criminal behavior under a religious banner.

The crusades and all the wars based on Christianity are not any different.

Until you can read the Koran in Arabic (not the English translation), you cannot claim to understand it's message. I have read the English version and it totally looses it's essence.

The Peaceful prevail (per the Koran).
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egyptian
4/4/2002 (22:12)
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Well , You can not guide the unguidables. Those who do not seek the truth can not be guided by it. If any one wishes to know about islam ..all they have to do is ask the nearst muslim in there area to actually drop every thing they are doing and teach them.
Just when you ask try to pick some one who is educated , clean, nice to talk to . 9 out of 10 muslims you ask will help. in that sense alone .. Islam would prove wrong anyone who have worked hard to missquote , misstranslate , missguide people about it.
I am still waiting for an educated jew to defend the talmud. God'd books would not contain such garbage!
peace
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Ozzie
4/4/2002 (23:35)
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egyptian

I want to get the Talmud to read and find out what's in it.
As far as Islam, I read the book since I have no access to the Druze Holy Books. I uphold Islam and live by its message because it is very close to the Druze's beliefs on most points. Also, I read the Bible growing up and uphold Jesus' teachings. According to a theologian who's presently my professor on World Civilization, our messenger Mohammed claimed that Jesus was the greatest prophet that ever existed. So to me, we are all connected by the same thread, including our Jewish brothers who I'd like to read their holy books for knowledge as well.

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egyptian
4/4/2002 (24:48)
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You and every other Muslim consider all God's prophets to be Muslims. on its own the word Muslim just means surrender ...
How ever..
We believe that there is only one religion acceptable by god .. which is Abraham’s natural religion ..
So in that sense .. The Jews leaving Egypt were Muslims ( they followed Moses peace upon him) So were Christians that followed Jesus teachings.
But since Mohamed (peace and prayer upon him) was the last prophet. With his message the Abraham faith has achieved perfect ness as said in the kora'n.
The people of the book ( Christians and Jews that refused to believe in Mohammed peace and prayer be upon him) are considered to be ' off limits' to Muslim IGTIHAD ( educated guess) We were told to NOT consider them as infidels .. but Do not befriend them in a sense that we let them defend us .
We surrender only to god.
It was mentioned numerous times in the kora'n that the Jews re wrote there holy book .. (THE TURAH) so I guess that is where this thread start comes in. and we believe also that to worship Jesus and make him into a god even though in the bible he was referenced as 'MAN' is just pure KOFR (non belief).
I did post a complete article on this forum about all this with relation to the anti Christ appearing and how what is happening now in the west bank is kind of a precursor to Armageddon.
I got that article from www.islaam.com A site that mysteriously Disappeared 2 days after I posted that article from it.. Of course I included the address on top of the article.
We believe just like Christians and Jews.. that Jesus peace upon him will return to earth to fight the anti Christ .. we have to follow him .. he will pray just like Muslims behind the IMAM. At that point .. all people of the book have to follow him or else become non believers themselves.
Does that mean that I can judge any Christian or a Jew today and condemn them to be an infidel based on there religion (that they would go to hell as non Muslims) ???? even if they do not believe in the Koran and Muhammad (peace upon him) ?? NO I can not .. and I should not .. of course bin laden might think different .. after all he was a business major!!!!!
There is also a lot of other hints and situation based on SUNNA ( Prophet life teachings Peace Upon him) that confirm this point beyond doubt.
But again you really do not need it since the kora’n have really told us A LOT about Both Jesus and Moses peace upon them.
-2 more points I would like to answer to..
some one said Muhammed (papuh) copied what he brought from bibles and talmuds .. Of course historically speaking he could not read not write nor did he ever go anywhere to study Christianity or Judaism .. he was .. like most prophets .. a shepherd. In the desert
of Mecca
- I do believe that people like the founder of that 700 club and Zionism are completely without any faith or religion .. these 2 groups immediately remind me of every thing I learned the devil to be like in the kora’n.! but then again .. I AM NOT ALLOWED TO JUDGE .. even though I am DYING TO.


Peace.

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ozzie
4/5/2002 (23:19)
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Egyptian,

In world civilization, I learned that our messenger Mohammed became a wealthy merchant and travelled with the trade caravans all over, even to the 'quds'. He befriended many Rabbis and priests in his travels and had long discussions about their religions. It was said that he became to know the religions of Judaism and Christianity more than most Jews and Christians of the day. What do you know about this claim (my theologian professor taught this in class when we were studying the section on the spread of Islam) true?
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egyptian
4/7/2002 (16:48)
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Well I would have pointed you the historical facts in www.islaam.com except some one pulled the plug on it ( I guess the web master beleived america was a democracy) any ways ..
Mohammed (ppuh) was a sheepherd and he was given the message as a sheepherd .. but he did get into trading for his future wife's money ( yes arab women were allowed to have money when the rest of the world treated women as things) and that allowed him to travel to syria and such. But on a trading trip .. Theology comparizons were really minimal. Mohammed (ppuh) knowledge did not stem from wordly information .. It is kind of hard to do that when you can not read or write.. it was devine wisedom in its purist form. as stated in qura'n .. And that the ONLY REASON muslims follow hia sunna ( his life) we do not follow his sunna as a sign of respect or any other reason except for the fact that god mentioned in quran 'he (mohammed ppuh) did not speak of his own whims) meaning he was ordered to say and do every thing he did and said.
The qura'n was given to him (ppuh) by Gebriell recitation .. and the first word of koran was 'READ' to wich the prophet ... (shaking from fear sitting in a lonely cave pondering the world)answered ' I am not a reader' meaning he does not know how to read or write .. this same order and answer repeat 3 times before gebriell finished the verse.!
here is a quick chronology for you ...
545: Birth of Abdullah, the Holy Prophet's father.
571: Birth of the Holy Prophet. Year of the Elephant. Invasion of Makkah by Abraha the Viceroy of Yemen, his retreat.
577: The Holy Prophet visits Madina with his mother. Death of his mother.
580: Death of Abdul Muttalib, the grandfather of the Holy Prophet.
583: The Holy Prophet's journey to Syria in the company of his uncle Abu Talib. His meeting with the monk Bahira at Bisra who foretells of his prophethood.
586: The Holy Prophet participates in the war of Fijar.
591: The Holy Prophet becomes an active member of 'Hilful Fudul', a league for the relief of the distressed.
594: The Holy Prophet becomes the Manager of the business of Lady Khadija, and leads her trade caravan to Syria and back.
595: The Holy Prophet marries Hadrat Khadija. Seventh century
605: The Holy Prophet arbitrates in a dispute among the Quraish about the placing of the Black Stone in the Kaaba.
610: The first revelation in the cave at Mt. Hira. The Holy Prophet is commissioned as the Messenger of God.
613: Declaration at Mt. Sara inviting the general public to Islam.
614: Invitation to the Hashimites to accept Islam.
615: Persecution of the Muslims by the Quraish. A party of Muslims leaves for Abyssinia.
616: Second Hijrah to Abysinnia.
617: Social boycott of the Hash