Martrdom debate points to a harder Islamic line
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John Calvin
4/4/2002 (22:02)
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Martyrdom debate points to harder Islamic line
By James Drummond in Cairo
Published: April 4 2002 21:38 | Last Updated: April 4 2002 21:50

FT.Com

When Ahmed al-Tayeb was appointed as the new mufti of Egypt last month, it was widely presumed that his predecessor, Farid Nasser Wassel, had overstepped the mark.

Mr Wassel famously ruled that smoking was sufficient grounds for divorce, but among other judgments he had also praised all Palestinian suicide bombers, no matter what target they chose, as 'martyrs'.

In the eyes of most analysts, this was too extreme a position for the Egyptian regime of President Hosni Mubarak, who appointed him.

Yet this week, the newly appointed Mr Tayeb said in a message carried in the semi-official al-Ahram newspaper that suicide bombings carried out by Palestinians against Israeli settlers, including non-combatants, in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip were 'one of the highest levels of martyrdom'.

The debate over suicide attacks, the only consistently effective military weapon in the Palestinian armoury against Israel, is indicative of an increasingly hardline attitude in the Muslim world that has emerged over the 18 months of the Palestinian uprising.

Mr Tayeb, who was appointed directly by Mr Mubarak's government, is the second highest religious authority in Egypt. His authority is formally exceeded only by that of Muhammed Sayyid Tantawi, a well-known moderate who is the Sheikh of Al-Azhar, head of the mosque-university that is the highest centre of religious learning in the Sunni Muslim world.

While political leaders such as Mr Mubarak and Yassir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, have condemned attacks carried out by Palestinian militants on Israeli civilians, some influential religious leaders have ruled that all Israelis are legitimate targets.

Previously the Sheikh al-Azhar, also a political appointee, had ruled that all attacks on civilians were forbidden. He received support from the most senior cleric in Saudi Arabia, Abdul Aziz Al ash-Sheikh, who has ruled that most of the kamikaze attacks carried out by Palestinians and others are suicidal in nature.

Islam of whatever stripe is explicit in forbidding suicide. Only God can give and take away life. As such, the attacks are haram or forbidden, according to Mr Al ash-Sheikh.

But last December, one of the most influential clerics in modern Sunni Islam, Yussif al-Qardawi, an Egyptian who now lives in the Gulf state of Qatar and broadcasts on the pan-Arab al-Jazeera TV channel, publicly berated Mr Tantawi, and implicitly the mufti of Saudi Arabia, declaring that all Israelis were in effect military targets.

One of the reasons why there are no clear rulings on the issue of suicide attacks is that they are a relatively new phenomenon in Sunni Islam.

'If a young man is fighting . . . on behalf of his country or his family, then his death is considered not as suicide but as martyrdom,' says Fahmi Howeidi, a prominent Islamist writer and columnist in Egypt's al-Ahram newspaper.




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egyptian
4/4/2002 (22:34)
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That is true all of it.
But the beside the suicide issue (In islam you are not allowed to educated guess no matter how informed you are if the matter in hand has a solid refrence.!) There is a Solid refrence by the action of the prophet him self when he told the muslim armies before they left for war what amounts to :
(Do not kill non warriors .. do not spoil a village , do not cut a tree)
Gihad in the war sense . no matter what kind of war gihad it is ( self defense or backing up another muslim)Did not allow for civilians killings.
Women of isreal could be with alot of hard line igtihad ( educated guess) considered warriors ( since all adult population of isreal is in the army.)
But (children / old people) Are not a legetimate target no matter what Israel does!!!!! Polictics and injustice can sometimes make people mad. But the biggest authority in a muslim life after God and His prophet is his heart . when it comes to matters that are 'moshabahat' or where no Solid refrence were given .. Suna muslims consider valid refrence to be only one of 2 things . in that order...
1- Kora'n ( direct vers from God)
2- Sunna ( the actions/life/sayings /advice) from prophet of god mohammed peace and prayer upon him.
Having said that ... 30 years after the prophet died.. and untill today .. Muslims have slowly drifted away from the actual Islamic law... leaders became monarqs ( Even thu democracy is a stratight verse in qoran 'Shora').
Wars have started for reasons other than Gihad.
And so on.
My pride in being a muslim today stems from knowing that as long as the kora'an is on earth .. I have a solid refrence of what i can and can not do .. there is very little that was not covered by that book. but most of what was not addressed directly came in the Sunna tradition of the prophet .. peace and prayer upon him.
his speech to his armies before he sent them away DID NOT LEAVE ANY ROOM for igtihad.
But not all muslims are educated to the same level or even in the same group that have there refrences in that order.Thank god the majority still is!
And as always ' ALLAH KNOWS BETTER'
peace
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egyptian
4/4/2002 (22:38)
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I did not post that to in any way offend those who lost loved ones defending them selves ..
But my prophet said (peace and prayer upon him)
He who stays silent and not tell the truth is a muted devil!
peace
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don
4/4/2002 (23:17)
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Prophet Muhammad said, 'When one of you puts on sandals, he should first put on the right foot ' (Hadith Sahih Muslim 877)

He also said, 'He who does not obey Muhammad disobeys God.' (Hadith Mishkat 144)

The sayings and actions of Muhammad make up the Sunnah which together with the Qur'an constitute Islamic Law. Study shows that authoritarianism extends to the simplest and most basic human activities. Human rights should be universal regardless of color, creed or gender. We agree that abuses are rife in a number of non-Muslim countries but HRAIC members have either personal experience driving them or more expertise and so contribute to this field rather than to, say, HRIC (Human Rights in China). Moreover, history has shown that political and military dictatorships have a shorter lifetime than religions; for example, Islam has changed little in over 13 centuries.

Most people are born into a certain religion and so no blame can be attached to them. We believe everyone has the right to hold religious beliefs and moreover apostatize (leave that religion ) if they so desire. (Shariah sets the death penalty for apostasy.) There are good and bad in all religions but some have considerable potential to do harm especially when held dogmatically. HRAIC's position is that it supports liberal-democratic pluralism and modernism as opposed to fundamentalism. We aim for the implementation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and support world peace and human siblinghood. 'Political correctness', however, has come to mean that many undesirable actions are not criticized.


http://www.hraic.org/
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ozzie Hooper
4/4/2002 (23:57)
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I remember reading in the Kuran where our messenger Mohammed emphasized to his followers that 'all who live by God's laws 'including Jews and Christians' will meet in Paradise. I don't have the exact quote, but he did stress that those who abide by God's laws will not be among the disbelievers!

This I think is a beautiful and meaningful message to all. This should stand that Mohammed did not believe or intend on forcing his religion on others. From my understanding, the Kuran stresses that an individual must on his own surrender to God's will and laws (that's what Islam means) in order to live a peaceful life.
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egyptian
4/4/2002 (24:06)
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yes and the Islamic law is CRYSTAL CLEAR on how to treat the people of the book ( christians and jews) who live in a muslim country.
If Muslim countries in the world were MORE FUNDEMENTAL. christians and jews would have actually been treated BETTER.
peace.