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Sad
4/13/2002 (2:20)
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Like, slavery, like exterminating the indians, like vietnam,in the years to come, the United States will have to answer to history for its role in the massacre of unarmed, helpless palestinian men, women and children by the Israeli army in Jenin. I truly feel complicit in this war crime, and I feel completely helpless to be able to do anything about it.

In the years to come, Israel will also understand what it is like to be hated worldwide, as the nazis are. The Israelis are no different. Give them power, or american made guns, tanks and helicopters, and they are very capable of rising to the occasion, just like the nazis.

Here is a post from the International Herald Tribune, an american newspaper published from Europe for an insight.

Why Powell will fail
Henry Siegman International Herald Tribune Saturday, April 13, 2002
NEW YORK In a speech April 4 announcing deeper U.S. involvement in efforts to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, President George W. Bush laid down several important markers previously missing from American policy. These included a new emphasis on halting Israeli settlement construction in the occupied territories, ending the humiliation of Palestinians and proceeding expeditiously toward an 'economically and politically viable' Palestinian state.
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However, the administration's approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains so deeply flawed as to guarantee the failure of Secretary of State Colin Powell's current mission to the region. The administration continues to believe it is possible for Yasser Arafat to implement a cease-fire and to diminish the level of Palestinian terrorism by verbal exhortation. What has been missing, in the administration's view, is Arafat's willingness to demand - in Arabic, of course - that the violence come to an end.
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The reality is that no matter how many speeches Arafat will make condemning terrorism, it is entirely predictable that the latest round of Israeli assaults on Palestinian cities, towns and refugee camps, which has succeeded in destroying what little remained of institutions that make possible the barest survival of Palestinian life, will trigger an even greater wave of Palestinian terrorism that neither Arafat nor anyone else can prevent.
.
This coming wave of terrorism will be seen in Israel and portrayed in the United States not as the inexorable consequence of Israel's depredations in the Palestinian territories, but as irrefutable evidence that Arafat has once again deceived Bush and has therefore forfeited his last chance to redeem himself.
.
The result of this utterly predictable and unspeakably tragic course of events is that Ariel Sharon will send the Israeli forces back into Palestinian areas with even more destructive fury than before, and Bush will declare that Arafat, having failed once again the opportunity he offered him to assert responsible leadership, will now have to fend for himself.
.
For his part, Sharon, having finally achieved what he always dreamed of - returning the situation in the occupied territories to their pre-Oslo days - will now wait for the emergence of 'a new moderate Palestinian leadership' that will accept his terms for an end to the conflict. He said as much in his speech to the Knesset on Monday. (Sharon has learned nothing from his catastrophic efforts to anoint Gemayel as president of Lebanon in 1982 and to replace the PLO with a Palestinian Village League in the mid-1980s.)
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For their part, Arab countries will be newly united in bitter hostility to the Jewish state. Just as Israelis were convinced that Palestinian rejection of the 'generous' terms offered by Ehud Barak at Camp David finally 'removed the mask from Arafat's face' and destroyed Israel's peace camp, so will Arab countries be convinced that Israel's response to their Beirut offer of peace and normalization - devastating Palestinian cities and destroying the Palestinian Authority - makes coexistence with the Jewish state impossible.
.
Is there an alternative to this scenario? There most certainly is; it requires that Powell say something like the following when he sits down to talk with Arafat in Ramallah on Saturday:
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'We understand that the suicide bombings of Islamic Jihad, Hamas and the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade will not end unless you confront them by force and engage them in a war that puts them out of business. We also understand you have no hope of winning such an internecine war, or of retaining popular Palestinian support for such fratricide, unless you can show the Palestinian people immediate and tangible progress toward Palestinian statehood, as well as an infusion of emergency aid.
.
'We will insist on a political process based on a return to the pre-1967 borders, with changes to accommodate Israeli security that are mutually negotiated, not unilaterally imposed by the stronger party, and we will join with the international community in launching an emergency reconstruction program.'
.
'Since Israel's actions have largely destroyed Palestinian security agencies and their capacity to confront the terrorists, we will work with you to repair the damage. Most important, we understand that this will take time and cannot be achieved by speeches, although we expect you to speak out against terrorism and the incitement that feeds it.
.
'For our part, we will demand an end to Israeli incitement by halting completely the construction of settlements, and keep Israeli forces out of Palestinian areas. But we will do this only as long as your actions against terrorism and violence are consistent, and as long as we remain convinced that you are putting out 100 percent effort to achieve agreed goals.'
.
Powell is most likely aware that this is the only approach that could change the catastrophic direction of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that he has a mandate from Bush to have such a conversation with Arafat. That is why whatever limited progress will result from Powell's visit will be blown away by the next suicide bomber, and will plunge the region into even deeper despair.
.
The writer, a senior fellow on the Middle East at the Council on Foreign Relations, contributed this personal comment to the International Herald Tribune. .
However, the administration's approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains so deeply flawed as to guarantee the failure of Secretary of State Colin Powell's current mission to the region. The administration continues to believe it is possible for Yasser Arafat to implement a cease-fire and to diminish the level of Palestinian terrorism by verbal exhortation. What has been missing, in the administration's view, is Arafat's willingness to demand - in Arabic, of course - that the violence come to an end.
.
The reality is that no matter how many speeches Arafat will make condemning terrorism, it is entirely predictable that the latest round of Israeli assaults on Palestinian cities, towns and refugee camps, which has succeeded in destroying what little remained of institutions that make possible the barest survival of Palestinian life, will trigger an even greater wave of Palestinian terrorism that neither Arafat nor anyone else can prevent.
.
This coming wave of terrorism will be seen in Israel and portrayed in the United States not as the inexorable consequence of Israel's depredations in the Palestinian territories, but as irrefutable evidence that Arafat has once again deceived Bush and has therefore forfeited his last chance to redeem himself.
.
The result of this utterly predictable and unspeakably tragic course of events is that Ariel Sharon will send the Israeli forces back into Palestinian areas with even more destructive fury than before, and Bush will declare that Arafat, having failed once again the opportunity he offered him to assert responsible leadership, will now have to fend for himself.
.
For his part, Sharon, having finally achieved what he always dreamed of - returning the situation in the occupied territories to their pre-Oslo days - will now wait for the emergence of 'a new moderate Palestinian leadership' that will accept his terms for an end to the conflict. He said as much in his speech to the Knesset on Monday. (Sharon has learned nothing from his catastrophic efforts to anoint Gemayel as president of Lebanon in 1982 and to replace the PLO with a Palestinian Village League in the mid-1980s.)
.
For their part, Arab countries will be newly united in bitter hostility to the Jewish state. Just as Israelis were convinced that Palestinian rejection of the 'generous' terms offered by Ehud Barak at Camp David finally 'removed the mask from Arafat's face' and destroyed Israel's peace camp, so will Arab countries be convinced that Israel's response to their Beirut offer of peace and normalization - devastating Palestinian cities and destroying the Palestinian Authority - makes coexistence with the Jewish state impossible.
.
Is there an alternative to this scenario? There most certainly is; it requires that Powell say something like the following when he sits down to talk with Arafat in Ramallah on Saturday:
.
'We understand that the suicide bombings of Islamic Jihad, Hamas and the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade will not end unless you confront them by force and engage them in a war that puts them out of business. We also understand you have no hope of winning such an internecine war, or of retaining popular Palestinian support for such fratricide, unless you can show the Palestinian people immediate and tangible progress toward Palestinian statehood, as well as an infusion of emergency aid.
.
'We will insist on a political process based on a return to the pre-1967 borders, with changes to accommodate Israeli security that are mutually negotiated, not unilaterally imposed by the stronger party, and we will join with the international community in launching an emergency reconstruction program.'
.
'Since Israel's actions have largely destroyed Palestinian security agencies and their capacity to confront the terrorists, we will work with you to repair the damage. Most important, we understand that this will take time and cannot be achieved by speeches, although we expect you to speak out against terrorism and the incitement that feeds it.
.
'For our part, we will demand an end to Israeli incitement by halting completely the construction of settlements, and keep Israeli forces out of Palestinian areas. But we will do this only as long as your actions against terrorism and violence are consistent, and as long as we remain convinced that you are putting out 100 percent effort to achieve agreed goals.'
.
Powell is most likely aware that this is the only approach that could change the catastrophic direction of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that he has a mandate from Bush to have such a conversation with Arafat. That is why whatever limited progress will result from Powell's visit will be blown away by the next suicide bomber, and will plunge the region into even deeper despair.
.
The writer, a senior fellow on the Middle East at the Council on Foreign Relations, contributed this personal comment to the International Herald Tribune. NEW YORK In a speech April 4 announcing deeper U.S. involvement in efforts to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, President George W. Bush laid down several important markers previously missing from American policy. These included a new emphasis on halting Israeli settlement construction in the occupied territories, ending the humiliation of Palestinians and proceeding expeditiously toward an 'economically and politically viable' Palestinian state.
.
However, the administration's approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains so deeply flawed as to guarantee the failure of Secretary of State Colin Powell's current mission to the region. The administration continues to believe it is possible for Yasser Arafat to implement a cease-fire and to diminish the level of Palestinian terrorism by verbal exhortation. What has been missing, in the administration's view, is Arafat's willingness to demand - in Arabic, of course - that the violence come to an end.
.
The reality is that no matter how many speeches Arafat will make condemning terrorism, it is entirely predictable that the latest round of Israeli assaults on Palestinian cities, towns and refugee camps, which has succeeded in destroying what little remained of institutions that make possible the barest survival of Palestinian life, will trigger an even greater wave of Palestinian terrorism that neither Arafat nor anyone else can prevent.
.
This coming wave of terrorism will be seen in Israel and portrayed in the United States not as the inexorable consequence of Israel's depredations in the Palestinian territories, but as irrefutable evidence that Arafat has once again deceived Bush and has therefore forfeited his last chance to redeem himself.
.
The result of this utterly predictable and unspeakably tragic course of events is that Ariel Sharon will send the Israeli forces back into Palestinian areas with even more destructive fury than before, and Bush will declare that Arafat, having failed once again the opportunity he offered him to assert responsible leadership, will now have to fend for himself.
.
For his part, Sharon, having finally achieved what he always dreamed of - returning the situation in the occupied territories to their pre-Oslo days - will now wait for the emergence of 'a new moderate Palestinian leadership' that will accept his terms for an end to the conflict. He said as much in his speech to the Knesset on Monday. (Sharon has learned nothing from his catastrophic efforts to anoint Gemayel as president of Lebanon in 1982 and to replace the PLO with a Palestinian Village League in the mid-1980s.)
.
For their part, Arab countries will be newly united in bitter hostility to the Jewish state. Just as Israelis were convinced that Palestinian rejection of the 'generous' terms offered by Ehud Barak at Camp David finally 'removed the mask from Arafat's face' and destroyed Israel's peace camp, so will Arab countries be convinced that Israel's response to their Beirut offer of peace and normalization - devastating Palestinian cities and destroying the Palestinian Authority - makes coexistence with the Jewish state impossible.
.
Is there an alternative to this scenario? There most certainly is; it requires that Powell say something like the following when he sits down to talk with Arafat in Ramallah on Saturday:
.
'We understand that the suicide bombings of Islamic Jihad, Hamas and the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade will not end unless you confront them by force and engage them in a war that puts them out of business. We also understand you have no hope of winning such an internecine war, or of retaining popular Palestinian support for such fratricide, unless you can show the Palestinian people immediate and tangible progress toward Palestinian statehood, as well as an infusion of emergency aid.
.
'We will insist on a political process based on a return to the pre-1967 borders, with changes to accommodate Israeli security that are mutually negotiated, not unilaterally imposed by the stronger party, and we will join with the international community in launching an emergency reconstruction program.'
.
'Since Israel's actions have largely destroyed Palestinian security agencies and their capacity to confront the terrorists, we will work with you to repair the damage. Most important, we understand that this will take time and cannot be achieved by speeches, although we expect you to speak out against terrorism and the incitement that feeds it.
.
'For our part, we will demand an end to Israeli incitement by halting completely the construction of settlements, and keep Israeli forces out of Palestinian areas. But we will do this only as long as your actions against terrorism and violence are consistent, and as long as we remain convinced that you are putting out 100 percent effort to achieve agreed goals.'
.
Powell is most likely aware that this is the only approach that could change the catastrophic direction of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that he has a mandate from Bush to have such a conversation with Arafat. That is why whatever limited progress will result from Powell's visit will be blown away by the next suicide bomber, and will plunge the region into even deeper despair.
.
The writer, a senior fellow on the Middle East at the Council on Foreign Relations, contributed this personal comment to the International Herald Tribune. NEW YORK In a speech April 4 announcing deeper U.S. involvement in efforts to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, President George W. Bush laid down several important markers previously missing from American policy. These included a new emphasis on halting Israeli settlement construction in the occupied territories, ending the humiliation of Palestinians and proceeding expeditiously toward an 'economically and politically viable' Palestinian state.
.
However, the administration's approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains so deeply flawed as to guarantee the failure of Secretary of State Colin Powell's current mission to the region. The administration continues to believe it is possible for Yasser Arafat to implement a cease-fire and to diminish the level of Palestinian terrorism by verbal exhortation. What has been missing, in the administration's view, is Arafat's willingness to demand - in Arabic, of course - that the violence come to an end.
.
The reality is that no matter how many speeches Arafat will make condemning terrorism, it is entirely predictable that the latest round of Israeli assaults on Palestinian cities, towns and refugee camps, which has succeeded in destroying what little remained of institutions that make possible the barest survival of Palestinian life, will trigger an even greater wave of Palestinian terrorism that neither Arafat nor anyone else can prevent.
.
This coming wave of terrorism will be seen in Israel and portrayed in the United States not as the inexorable consequence of Israel's depredations in the Palestinian territories, but as irrefutable evidence that Arafat has once again deceived Bush and has therefore forfeited his last chance to redeem himself.
.
The result of this utterly predictable and unspeakably tragic course of events is that Ariel Sharon will send the Israeli forces back into Palestinian areas with even more destructive fury than before, and Bush will declare that Arafat, having failed once again the opportunity he offered him to assert responsible leadership, will now have to fend for himself.
.
For his part, Sharon, having finally achieved what he always dreamed of - returning the situation in the occupied territories to their pre-Oslo days - will now wait for the emergence of 'a new moderate Palestinian leadership' that will accept his terms for an end to the conflict. He said as much in his speech to the Knesset on Monday. (Sharon has learned nothing from his catastrophic efforts to anoint Gemayel as president of Lebanon in 1982 and to replace the PLO with a Palestinian Village League in the mid-1980s.)
.
For their part, Arab countries will be newly united in bitter hostility to the Jewish state. Just as Israelis were convinced that Palestinian rejection of the 'generous' terms offered by Ehud Barak at Camp David finally 'removed the mask from Arafat's face' and destroyed Israel's peace camp, so will Arab countries be convinced that Israel's response to their Beirut offer of peace and normalization - devastating Palestinian cities and destroying the Palestinian Authority - makes coexistence with the Jewish state impossible.
.
Is there an alternative to this scenario? There most certainly is; it requires that Powell say something like the following when he sits down to talk with Arafat in Ramallah on Saturday:
.
'We understand that the suicide bombings of Islamic Jihad, Hamas and the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade will not end unless you confront them by force and engage them in a war that puts them out of business. We also understand you have no hope of winning such an internecine war, or of retaining popular Palestinian support for such fratricide, unless you can show the Palestinian people immediate and tangible progress toward Palestinian statehood, as well as an infusion of emergency aid.
.
'We will insist on a political process based on a return to the pre-1967 borders, with changes to accommodate Israeli security that are mutually negotiated, not unilaterally imposed by the stronger party, and we will join with the international community in launching an emergency reconstruction program.'
.
'Since Israel's actions have largely destroyed Palestinian security agencies and their capacity to confront the terrorists, we will work with you to repair the damage. Most important, we understand that this will take time and cannot be achieved by speeches, although we expect you to speak out against terrorism and the incitement that feeds it.
.
'For our part, we will demand an end to Israeli incitement by halting completely the construction of settlements, and keep Israeli forces out of Palestinian areas. But we will do this only as long as your actions against terrorism and violence are consistent, and as long as we remain convinced that you are putting out 100 percent effort to achieve agreed goals.'
.
Powell is most likely aware that this is the only approach that could change the catastrophic direction of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that he has a mandate from Bush to have such a conversation with Arafat. That is why whatever limited progress will result from Powell's visit will be blown away by the next suicide bomber, and will plunge the region into even deeper despair.
.
The writer, a senior fellow on the Middle East at the Council on Foreign Relations, contributed this personal comment to the International Herald Tribune.
reply by
barb
4/13/2002 (2:33)
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Thanks for posting. I appreciate informative articles.
reply by
Sad
4/13/2002 (2:36)
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Another story from the Independent, London:

Israel buries the bodies, but cannot hide the evidence
By Justin Huggler in Jenin and Phil Reeves in Jerusalem
13 April 2002
Middle East


Israel was trying to bury the evidence in Jenin refugee camp yesterday, but it cannot bury the terrible crime it has committed: a slaughter in which Palestinian civilians were cut down alongside the armed defenders of the camp.

Israeli tanks circled journalists menacingly as foreign reporters tried to get into the camp, cutting off their approach. But a man who had just fled the camp said he had seen Israeli soldiers burying the bodies of the dead in a mass grave.

'I saw it all with my own eyes,' said the man. 'I saw people bleeding to death in the streets. I saw a 10-year-old child lying dead. There was a big hole in his side and his arm had been blown away.

'I saw them burying the bodies. They started work on the grave a few days ago. I recognised some of the bodies in it. I can give you the names.'

And he reeled them off: 'Mohammed Hamed, Nidal Nubam and Mustafa Shnewa'. He said the mass grave he saw was in a neighbourhood called Harat Al-Hawashiya. 'They dug a big hole in the ground. I saw them filling it in today. They had a big bulldozer pushing dirt in on top of it.'

And so the grieving of Jenin will not be certain where their relatives lie. They will not return to bury their dead, however – the Israeli army will have done that to keep the devastating sight of the carnage away from the eyes of the waiting world.

Yesterday, though, they were unable to stifle the evil smell. The reek of putrefying bodies wafted out of the narrow, rubble-strewn alleys which were barred for a fifth day to international aid agencies trying to send ambulances and doctors to evacuate the many wounded, and recover the dead.

One after another, international officials, angered by Israel's rampant violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention and the human misery that has resulted, confided to The Independent yesterday that they had reached the inevitable conclusion: a crime has been committed which Israel is trying to cover up.

'It is clear they have something to hide – that is the bottom line,' said one senior diplomatic source. Red Cross and Red Crescent ambulances waited on stand-by for yet another day, without getting in to the camp.

The agencies have been tirelessly collecting information in the face of Israel's news black-out, building up details of the scene inside the half-wrecked, water-starved camp – a sprawl of tightly packed homes over one square kilometre. In effect, it has been turned into a prison where thousands of refugees are still in hiding, terrified that the soldiers will add them to the three-figure death toll.

A grim, if incomplete, picture is forming. Electricity supplies in Jenin Hospital are so low that the morgue's refrigerators are not running. Decomposing bodies, retrieved from other parts of the West Bank town, have been buried in the hospital gardens.

But yesterday morning corpses lay unburied in the camp itself, where 15,000 refugees, half of them under 18, lived before the assault, and the ensuing battles, began.

'People who got to the edge of the camp found it incredibly smelly,' one UN official said. How much of the camp still stands is unclear; reports say that bulldozers have cut a swath through homes near the entrance – a tactic which the Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, used against the refugees of Gaza 30 years ago, when he was an army commander trying to subdue the same forces that have now reared up against him anew.

Some accounts say that a third of the camp has been flattened.

The besieged Palestinians of Jenin fall into three categories. There is an unknown number in hiding in the refugee camp itself. These are without water, medicines, and risk being shot by Israeli snipers if they step outside, violating the curfew.

There are also an estimated 2,000-3,000 who have fled the camp, and are living in schools and mosques in poor conditions, with limited supplies.

Finally, there are the many thousands of residents of the rest of the town, parts of which have been devastated by tanks, bulldozers and rockets from helicopters.

All of them have been under the army curfew, placing the sick and elderly in serious jeopardy.

Tracing all the dead is likely to be a long and complex task. UNWRA, the United Nations relief agency for refugees, keeps a computer list of the residents of the densely populated camp. When its officials are finally allowed access to the camp, this will be used to identify the number of missing – either in detention, hiding or dead.

Israel may be able to hide the bodies of the dead but it cannot hide all the evidence. Hundreds of refugees have poured out of Jenin camp, many with harrowing stories to tell. The Palestinians are not going to let these stories be buried under the rubble.

Volunteers are compiling meticulous records of the testimony of every refugee who staggered beaten and humiliated by Israeli soldiers out of detention. The Independent has seen the laborious hand-written notes, of which several copies have been made.

Among them lies the story of Jamal Wardun. He was detained in the refugee camp when he tried to take his wife to hospital. She was pregnant and going into labour. The last time he saw her was when he was forced to leave her behind in the street.