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The AZCowboy
4/25/2002 (13:06)
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'go ahead covert to JUDAISM .. of course you will have to beleive that mohammed peace upon him was a false massiah'

Mohammed was a false messiah.

That's the truth.
We are waiting for the 1.2 billions muslims to clue in.

You Muslims are as bad as the ZioNazi Jewzies who think they are the chosen ones.

TAC - If I didn't say it, it ain't true.
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truth
4/25/2002 (13:14)
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Why do not you read about your own relegion first before making claims against others???
1- do you know WHEN christians decided that jeasus was god ( the trinity).. how many years have passed since his death ( if you beleive in his death) when the trinity theology were invented ??
Do you even know who invented it ?? or WHY ??
do you know how many christians were killed because of that invention ??
2- How many bibles are you aware of .. and who have the authority to decide that those bibles speaking about a messaiah coming after jeasus with the name AHMAD in arabia .. are not bibles that should be circulated???
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Look .. as muslims we are ordered not to fight christian or jews over relegions like we would fight unbeleivers .. but really asking a mulim to convert is like asking a windows 2000 users to down grade to windows 3.1 in case of christianity or using a notepad in case of talmudian principals.!
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Sam
4/25/2002 (13:17)
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You will pay for this blasphemy!

I call my friend at Tucson Islamic Center(520) 624-3233 and tell him you blasphemy the name of the massiah, peace upon him.

Convert to Islam! No one is forcing you. This is true. You always have a choice to fight and die.
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truth
4/25/2002 (13:20)
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A 4 year old muslim kid would know that this sam is not the muslim sam posting earlier .. you guys are pethetic...
no muslim would threated any one over there ideology!!! it is forbidden.
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real truth
4/25/2002 (13:23)
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Look .. as muslims we are ordered not to fight christian or jews over relegions like we would fight unbeleivers .. but really asking a mulim to convert is like asking a windows 2000 users to down grade to windows 3.1 in case of christianity or using a notepad in case of talmudian principals.!



The above sounds a bit insecure to me.
reply by
truth
4/25/2002 (13:25)
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The last thing on my list of worries these times is an acusation of insecurity of someone who stole my nickname :)))
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The AZCowboy
4/25/2002 (13:33)
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Hey! Jesus said he is the only way

Jesus said that he was the only way in John 14:6: I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Peter said in Acts 4:12: 'salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven by which we must be saved.'
Paul in 1Timothy 2:5 says: 'for there is one God, and one mediator between God and humanity, the man Christ Jesus.'
The Claims of Jesus Eclipse others Claims

Only Jesus is thought of as creator, sustainer and saviour.
Buddha is thought of as a mere teacher.
Muhammad as a prophet
The superiority of Jesus over Muhammad and Buddha

Birth: all other religious leaders were born from two human parents.
Miracle: Jesus alone performed miracles that demonstrated power over nature, disease and death
Teaching: With the possible exception of the teaching of Buddha , Jesus ethical teaching is patently superior
Resurrection: Only Jesus rose from death. The others are dead and buried
In Buddhism and Hinduism there is no real notion of salvation.

The person is trapped in an endless cycle of reincarnations. Nirvana and Moshka are unverifiable concepts whereas the resurrection is verifiable in legally and historically credible eye-witness accounts. So much so that people died for their certainty. The resurrection of Jesus is the first fruits of the future resurrection of all believers

Both Judaism and Islam reject the essential salvation of Jesus Christ

While giving some positive ground to Jesus i.e. virgin birth, miracle, sinlessness, ascension and future return they prefer to elevate Muhammad who was at best a creative and good teacher. He did not perform miracles preferring to see the Qur'an as the ultimate miracle and who is well and truly dead. Clearly Jesus is superior as a miracle worker, teacher, prophet and in his resurrection. Islam represents a rejection of Christianity

Buddhism is at best a philosophy not a religion

In reality Buddhism is at best a philosophy of living with a lot of good elements. Siddhartha Gautama was a great teacher and philosopher but claimed no link to the divine as Theravada Buddhism admits. He is not worshipped but his way is followed. It does not solve the essential problems of human kind

Its solution to suffering may appeal at first thought: i.e. get rid of desire. I hear this in the words of Paul in Phil 4: 'I have learned to be content in any and every situation whether in need or in plenty.' In Christian thinking suffering is not to be avoided but experienced as it is through suffering that we mature and grow. It is true that if we remove desire we will remove suffering but not all desire is bad desire. It can become an excuse for inactivity i.e. avoid suffering by not getting involved. The Christian is called to follow Jesus call to take up the cross daily and follow him, seeking first his kingdom and righteousness. This means desiring good, working for good and living the life of the cross.

The Superiority of Christianity in it's power to transform miraculously

Christianity alone has the power to take a devastated human life and reconstruct it without withdrawal from the world. The change wrought by God in inner healing, transformation and sometimes physical healing allows people to remain essentially the same but change. The personality and the character remain but the person is released into new life. It is the worlds largest religion because of its power in the present

Christianity is the only religion that relies on the free response of faith not a set of works:

Islam involves the 5 pillars: confession, 5x/day prayer, almsgiving, fasting and pilgrimage
Hinduism requires self absorption to find the god within through chanting, meditation, and ritual cleansing in prescribed ways
Buddhism requires the 8-fold path and the renunciation of all desire
Judaism requires the law to be faithfully observed and for one to become a Jew
Christianity's history has been in one sense, a fight to retain it's essential truth expressed in Ephesians 2:8-9: for it is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God so that no one can boast.' We do many of the above things: pray, worship, fast, meditate, go on pilgrimages to enhance our relationship with God but none save us. We are saved by faith which is:
Trust in God to save
Acceptance of Jesus as saviour
A resolve to live for him as best we can
Humility for we know we are sinners and need grace
We do not have to do anything to be saved. We are saved when we believe.

Christianity's ability to adapt

All the other religions are culturally bound. Hinduism to India. Judaism to Israel and the Jewish culture. Buddhism to eastern culture. Islam to Arab culture. Christianity over the years as it has moved through Greek and Roman culture. Into all areas of Europe. In the missionary period of colonialism. Today as it sweeps through Africa, Asia and South America and even in Western youth culture in part, has the ability to adapt. This is because it is not tied with absolute systems of action, worship and behaviour. It allows people to pray and worship in their own way. It adapts to culture. While in its worst moments it is a ghastly beast when it is tied to the state power and the sword, at its heart is a freedom. It is at its best when it is not imposed. All other religions are restricted in their ability to be truly global without the use of the sword.

That is why I am a Christian. It is superior in every way despite is abuse over the years That is why it is the world's largest religion [1.7 billion (32%)] cf. Hindu [663m], Islam [880m], Buddhist [311m].


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truth
4/25/2002 (13:38)
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So all people who died before jeasus are in hell?
reply by
truth
4/25/2002 (13:40)
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1.2.3.1 Anglican bishops declare that Jesus is not God
Muslims are not the only ones who believe that Jesus (pbuh) is mortal and not a god. The Jews also believe this, in addition to the very first groups of Christianity such as the Ebonites, the Cerinthians, the Basilidians, the Capocratians, and the Hypisistarians. The Arians, Paulicians and Goths also accepted Jesus (pbuh) as a prophet of God. Even in the modern age there are churches in Asia, in Africa, the Unitarian church, the Jehovah's witnesses, and even the majority of today's Anglican Bishops do not worship Jesus (pbuh) as God.


In the British newspaper the 'Daily News' 25/6/84 under the heading 'Shock survey of Anglican Bishops' We read


'More than half of England's Anglican Bishops say that Christians are not obliged to believe that Jesus Christ was God, according to a survey published today. The pole of 31 of England's 39 bishops shows that many of them think that Christ's miracles, the virgin birth and the resurrection might not have happened exactly as described in the Bible. Only 11 of the bishops insisted that Christians must regard Christ as both God and man, while 19 said it was sufficient to regard Jesus as 'God's supreme agent''


But what is a messenger of God? Is he not 'God's supreme agent' ?. This is indeed what God Himself has already told us in the noble Qur'an 1400 years ago, and exactly what Jesus (pbuh) himself testified to in the Bible:


'And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.'

John 17:3


Astounding, isn't it? With every passing day, the most learned among the Christian community are slowly recognizing the truth and drawing closer and closer to Islam. These are not Muslims who issued this statement. These are not 'liberal' Christians. These are the most learned and most highly esteemed men of the Anglican Church. These men have dedicated their whole lives to the study of the religion of Jesus, and their study has driven them to the truth which God had already revealed to them in the Qur'an 1400 years ago: That Jesus was not God. That God is not a Trinity. And that the stories of the ministry of Jesus in the Bible have been extensively tampered with by the hands of mankind.


'And when Allah said: O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he said: Be You glorified. It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then You knew it. You know what is in my [innermost] self but I know not what is in Yours. Truly! You, only You are the Knower of things hidden. I spoke unto them only that which You commanded me, (saying): Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord, and I was a witness over them while I dwelt among them, and when You took me You were the Watcher over them, and You are Witness over all things.'

The noble Qur'an, Al-Maidah(5):116-118


The Church, as Heinz Zahrnt put it 'put words into the mouth of Jesus which he never spoke and attributed actions to him which he never performed.' One of those who has shown that most of what the church says about Jesus is baseless is Rudolph Augustein in his book 'Jesus the Son of Man.' Another very comprehensive study of this matter can be found in the book 'The Myth of God Incarnate' which was written by seven theologian scholars in England in 1977 and edited by John Hick. Their conclusion in this matter is that Jesus was 'a man approved by God, for a special role within the divine purpose, and..... the later conception of him as God incarnate ... is a mythological or poetic way of expressing his significance for us.' See also John Mackinnon Robertson's 'Christianity and Mythology' T.W Doane's 'The Bible Myths and their Parallels in Other Religions' (A good summary of these studies is available in M.F. Ansarei, 'Islam and Christianity in the Modern World').


A University of Richmond professor, Dr. Robert Alley, after considerable research into newly found ancient documents concludes that


'....The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son of God are later additions.... what the church said about him. Such a claim of deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire lifestyle as we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after Jesus' death Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The first three decades of the existence of the church were within the synagogue. That would have been beyond belief if they (the followers) had boldly proclaimed the deity of Jesus.'


Is there any confirmation of this in the Bible, yes! If we were to read the Bible we would find that long after the departure of Jesus, his faithful followers continued to 'keep up their daily attendance at the Temple' (Acts 2:46) It would be beyond belief to imagine that had Jesus indeed preached to his apostles that he was God, and if Jesus had indeed commanded them to forsake the commandments, that they would then disregard all of this and continue to worship in a Jewish synagogue on a daily basis, let alone the great Temple itself. It is further beyond belief that the Jews of the Temple would stand idly by and allow them to do this if they were preaching the total cancellation of the law of Moses and that Jesus was God.


Can any Trinitarian Christian, even in their wildest fantasies, imagine that the Jews in an orthodox Jewish synagogue would stand idly by while he took out his cross and prayed to Jesus in the midst of their synagogue and was publicly calling others to worship Jesus and forsake the commandments? How much more preposterous to imagine that they would have nothing to say to someone who did that in their most sacred of all synagogues, the Temple, on a daily basis yet. This is further evidence in support of the Qur'an, that Jesus only called his followers to a continuation of the religion of Moses and not by any means to the total cancellation and destruction of that law.


In the previous section, we read the following verses of the Bible:

'Know therefore this day, and consider [it] in thine heart, that the LORD he [is] God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: [there is] none else.' Deuteronomy 4:39.
'Thou shalt have no other gods before me.' Exodus 20:3
'For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:' Exodus 34:14
'Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no savior.' Isaiah 43:10-11.
'Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.' Isaiah 44:6
'That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else.' Isaiah 45:6
'For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else.' Isaiah 45:18.
'Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else.' Isaiah 45:22


Now we should begin to ask ourselves: If there was no god before or after God Almighty, then how was Jesus (pbuh) 'begotten' as a god? The answer is: he was not. He was a mortal man, not a god. We even have the testimony of the majority of today's Anglican Bishops in defense of this basic truth. If we want the testimony of a trustworthy witness then how much more trustworthy a witness shall we ever find than the majority of the most learned and respected conservative Christians of the Anglican Church?


The Bible only preaches that Jesus is God and that God is a Trinity to those who do not know it's innermost details and the truth of the history of the Church as these men have come to know it. But let us move on in our study of the Biblical verses so that we can see only a small sampling of the evidence that has made the truth clear to these men.




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truth
4/25/2002 (13:42)
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Chapter 7: The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Gospel of Barn p1

Many of the fundamental beliefs of Christianity which have been for many centuries accepted on blind faith (those which differ from the beliefs of Muslims) are now beginning to be challenged by some of the foremost scholars and religious leaders of Christianity today.



As we have previously seen in section 1.2.3.1, only one of the most glaring example of this can be found in the British newspaper the 'Daily News' 25/6/84 under the heading 'Shock survey of Anglican Bishops' We read that a British television pole of 31 of the 39 Anglican Bishops in England found 19 to believe that it is not necessary for Christians to believe that Jesus (pbuh) is God, but only 'His supreme agent' (his messenger)



Indeed, this was testified to by Jesus in John 17:3

'And this is life eternal, that they might know YOU the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.'

With every passing day, the learned among Christendom are drawing ever closer to Islam

'I shall turn away from my signs those who are arrogant in the earth unjustifiably, and if they see all the signs (in creation) they believe them not, and if they see the path of righteousness they do not take it as (their) path, and if they see the path of misguidance they take it as (their) path. That is because they deny our signs and are used to disregarding them'

The noble Qur’an, Al-Aaraf(7):146.

'They are not all alike. Of the people of the book are a portion whom stand (for that which is right), who recite the revelations of Allah throughout the night while prostrate (before Him)'

The noble Qur’an, A'al-Umran(3):113.

'And Lo! Of the people of the Scripture are those who believe in Allah and that which was sent down to you and that which was sent down to them, humbling themselves before Allah. They purchase not a trifling gain at the price of the revelations of Allah. Verily, their reward is with their Lord, and Lo! Allah is swift to take account.'

The noble Qur’an, A'al-Umran(3):199.

The choice of the present four Gospels (including the writings of St. Paul who is credited with single-handedly writing the majority of the books of the New Testament) was imposed in the conference of Nicea 325 C.E. under the auspices of the Pagan Emperor Constantine for political reasons. Literally hundreds of gospels and religious writings were considered 'Apocrypha' (which actually means 'hidden from the people') and destroyed. Some of these were written by disciples of Jesus (pbuh), and not disciples of disciples who had never met Jesus (pbuh), such as Paul. If they were not more authentic than the current selection then they were at least of equal authenticity. Some of these are still available, such as the 'Gospel of Barnabas' which agrees with the Qur'an and even mention Muhammad (pbuh) by name. Modern discoveries such as the discovery of the dead sea scrolls (Qumran scrolls) have also confirmed the claims of the Qur’an (such as their claim that no nail shall touch the Messiah). The most ancient copies of the Greek Gospels available today date fully three to four centuries after the departure of Jesus(pbuh). The Dead sea scrolls, however, coincide historically with the time of John the Baptist. They were quickly dated from the 2nd century BC through the 1st century C.E. by the script in which they were written and by archaeological investigations of the settlement near the Qumran caves. They were discovered alongside the most ancient copy of the Old Testament available today.

In an effort to defend the teachings of the current Greek gospels, Mr. F.F. Bruce has the following to say in his book 'The New Testament documents. Are they reliable?':

'It is worth mentioning here that striking affinities of thought and language have been recognized between the Gospel and the Qumran texts. These affinities must not be exaggerated; the Qumran literature comes no where near presenting us with such a figure as the Jesus of this Gospel (John)'

Christian scholar of history readily confirm that after the famous council of Nicea (325 C.E.), the church of St. Paul (The Trinitarian Church) selected out of the over three hundred Gospels in their possession the four that most closely conformed to their doctrines. All others, including the Gospel of Barnabas, were ordered completely destroyed. They also ruled that all Gospels written in Hebrew were to be destroyed. This practice continued until at least the year 1616 C.E.

Well then, how did the Gospel of Barnabas reach us? It is well known and recorded that the Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as Canonical in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 C.E. Pope Damasus (304-384 C.E.) issued a decree that the Gospel of Barnabas should not be read. This decree was supported by Gelasus, Bishop of Caesaria who died in 395 C.E. Pope Demasus, however, did secure a personal copy of the Gospel of Barnabas for himself in 383 C.E. and placed it in his private library. Many decrees make mention of the Gospel of Barnabas, such as the decree of the Western churches in 382AD, Pope Innocent in 465C.E., the Glasian Decree of 496C.E., Pope Hormisdas, and it is mentioned in the Stichometry of Niceophorus. There are many others who made note of this Gospel throughout history or obtained their own copies.

In 478AD, the fourth year of Emperor Zeno, the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Borland Junii Tom II, pages 422 and 450. Antwerp 1698) The famous Vulgate Bible appears to have been based upon this Gospel.

Among the early Christians was a man named Irenaeus (130-200 AD). According to the book 'Jesus, Prophet of Islam,' by Muhammad Ata’ Ur Rahim, Irenaeus quoted extensively in his writings from the Gospel of Barnabas. In the sixteenth century C.E. a close friend of Pope Sextus (1589-1590) called Fra Marino, became extremely interested in the writings of Irenaeus. One day he was invited to visit the Pope and lunch with him. After eating with him, the Pope became drowsy and fell asleep. Father Marino took to browsing through the various books and manuscripts in the private library of Pope Sextus and happened upon an Italian translation of the Gospel of Barnabas. Father Marino concealed it in his sleeve and left the Vatican with it. This Gospel passed through many hands until it reached the hands of 'a person of great name and authority' in Amsterdam 'who during his lifetime, was often heard to put a high value on this piece.' After his death, it came into the possession of J.E. Cramer, Councilor of the King of Prussia. In 1713, Cramer presented this Gospel to the famous connoisseur of books, Prince Eugene of Savoy. In 1738, the library of the Prince, including this Gospel was incorporated into the Hofbibliothek in Vienna where it now rests.

Mr. Sale in his preface 'To the Reader' of his translation of the meanings of the verses of the noble Qur’an says:

'… the discoverer of the original M.S., who was a Christian monk called Fra Marino, tells us that having accidentally met with a writing of Irenaeus (among others), wherein Irenaeus spoke against Paul, alleging, for his authority, the Gospel of St. Barnabas, he became exceedingly desirous of finding an existing copy of this Gospel, and that God of His mercy, having made Fra Marino an intimate friend of Pope Sixtus V, (pope 1585-1590), one day, as they were together in the Pope’s library, his holiness fell asleep, and the monk, to occupy himself, reaching down for a book to read, the very first he laid his hand on proved to be the very Gospel history that he was seeking. Overjoyed at the discovery, he scrupled not to hide his prize discovery in his sleeve; and, on the Pope’s awakening, took to leave of him carrying with him that celestial treasure, by reading of which he became a convert to Muhammedanism [sic]'

The Dead Sea Scrolls, the Gospel of Barnabas, and the New Testament, by M. A. Yusseff, p. 119) (also see Jesus a Prophet of Islam, by Muhammad `Ata ur-Rahim, pp. 39-44, 76-77)

Only the popularity of this copy of the Gospel of Barnabas saved it from the fate of most other copies. Most copies of the Gospel of Barnabas had a tendency of mysteriously disappearing into oblivion. This was the case with a Spanish copy which mysteriously disappeared from the College Library in England around the same time period. The Gospel of Barnabas was translated into English by Mr. and Mrs. Ragg and published in the Clarindon Press in Oxford in 1907. Dispite the fact that the authors disallowed the authenticity of this Gospel, still, mysteriously all copies disappeared from the market. Only two copies are known to have escaped this mysterious fate. One copy is housed in the Library of Congress in Washington, DC. The other is located in the British museum. A new printing has been made off of these copies and this printing is available today.

Many attempts have been made since the Gospel of Barnabas was first inadvertently smuggled out of the Vatican vaults and unveiled to the public to disprove it’s authenticity. This Gospel was found to support the Muslim Qur’an so strongly that it was quickly recognized that Father Marino must have stumbled upon a fabricated Gospel written by Muslims which Muslims had later managed to cleverly conceal in the Christian Vatican. Much has been written on this topic, however, for those who would like to see strong evidence of the great antiquity and authenticity of this Gospel, they are directed to obtain a copy of the book 'The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Gospel of Barnabas, and The New Testament', by M. A. Yussuff.

Some quotations from the Gospel of Barnabas:

In reply to a question by Philip, Prophet Jesus said:

'God alone hath no equal. He hath had no beginning, nor will he ever have a end, ... He hath no sons, nor brethren, nor companions.'

Gospel of Barnabas:17


'... Verily ye have erred greatly, O Israelites, in calling me(Jesus), a man, your God. ... I confess before heaven, ... that I am a stranger to all that ye have said; seeing that I am man, born of a mortal woman, subject to the judgment of God, suffering the miseries of eating and sleeping, of cold and heat, like other men,. Whereupon when God shall come to judge, my words like a sword shall pierce each one (of them) that believe me to be more than man,'

Gospel of Barnabas: 93

Regarding the apostle Barnabas himself, the Bible commands:

'if he comes to you, receive him.'

Colossians 4:10

(For more quotations from the Gospel of Barnabas, please read the end of the following section titled …)

The Dead Sea Scrolls:

I have just alluded to the Dead Sea Scrolls in the quotation by Mr. F. F. Bruce. Even with his staunch defense of the text the New and Old Testament, even with that, we find him saying 'It is worth mentioning here that striking affinities of thought and language have been recognized between the Gospel and the Qumran texts. These affinities must not be exaggerated; the Qumran literature comes no where near presenting us with such a figure as the Jesus of this Gospel (John)'

What is so noteworthy about this quote? Well, to answer this question we need to begin with the story of the scrolls themselves:

In 1947 a group of children stumbled upon the first set of scrolls in a cave on the shores of the Dead Sea. These scrolls were immediately identified as the work of a very devout sect of the Jewish community that lived centuries before the birth of Jesus (pbuh). Hershel Shanks says in his book Understanding the Dead Sea Scrolls:

'Such was the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, manuscripts a thousand years older than the oldest known Hebrew texts of the Bible, manuscripts many of which were written a hundred years before the birth of Jesus and at least one of which may have been written almost three hundred years before the journey of Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem'

Understanding the Dead Sea Scrolls, Hershel Shanks, pp. 7-8

An immediate frantic search ensued through the remaining caves in the region in order to find what other ancient scrolls could be discovered therein. A small group of 'international' scholars in Israel were given exclusive access to them and the rest of the world was all but totally barred from gaining even the slightest glimpse of the texts (Prof. Eisenman observes that one of the major stumbling blocks for the publication of the scrolls was that 'in the first place, the team was hardly international') . Prof. Robert Eisenman was one of the key players in the drama that finally lead to the release of the scrolls. In his book 'The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered' we read:

'In the spring of 1986, at the end of his stay in Jerusalem, Professor Eisenman went with the British scholar, Philip Davies of the University of Sheffield, to see one of the Israeli officials responsible for this - an intermediary on behalf of the Antiquities Department (now ‘Authority’) and the International Team and the Scrolls Curator at Israel Museum. They were told in no uncertain terms ‘You will not see the Scrolls in your lifetimes’'

This stung them into action, and as a result of this statement, a massive effort was launched and five years later through a whirlwind of media publicity, absolute access to the scrolls was attained. Prof. Eisenman eventually received 1800 pictures of the previously unpublished scrolls. The book goes on to describe how

'Eisenman was preparing the Facsimile Edition of all unpublished plates. This was scheduled to appear the following spring through E. J. Brill in Leiden, Holland. Ten days, however, before it’s scheduled publication in April 1991, after pressure was applied by the International Team, the publisher inexplicably withdrew and Hershel Shanks (author of Biblical Archeology Review) and the Biblical Archeology Society to their credit stepped in to fill the breach'.

However, finally in September 1991, the archives were officially opened and two months later the 2-volume Facsimile Edition was published.

We have already read the words of Mr. Tom Harpur in the preface to his book:

'The most significant development since 1986 in this regard has been the discovery of the title 'Son of God' in one of the Qumran papyri (Dead Sea Scrolls) used in relation to a person other than Jesus.....this simply reinforces the argument made there that to be called the Son of God in a Jewish setting in the first century is not by any means the same as being identical with God Himself.'

For Christ’s Sake, Tom Harpur, pp. xii.

So why don’t we study these scrolls in a little more detail and see what else we can learn ?

The Dead Sea Scrolls consist of fragments from many manuscripts, however, some of the most interesting among them are the Pesher texts. The Pesher texts are strings of interpretations of Biblical verses compiled by the most knowledgeable among the Jews. The word itself is derived from the Hebrew root word p-sh-r, which means, 'to explain'. The texts consist of Biblical passages followed by the words pesher ha-davar 'the interpretation of the matter is,' and then the interpretation itself.

The basis of all of these texts is the notion that all of history is preordained by God. In other words, God is not restricted to looking at matters as 'past', 'present', or 'future', rather, all of time is an open book to God (please read the verification of this concept in Islamic belief in chapter 11). Indeed, this is the essence of how prophets receive 'prophesies', because God 'sees' the future.

So, remembering that we are henceforth quoting from texts that have been carbon dated at about 100 years or more before the coming of Jesus (pbuh), and that this dating is confirmed by literary analysis, and that the authors were a sect of very religious and devout Jews, considering all of this let us see what they have to say:

Those who have studied the scrolls have noticed a common theme prevalent throughout these manuscripts, that is, most of the pesher texts prophesise the coming of a 'Teacher of Righteousness' who will be sent by God to the Jews. This 'Teacher of Righteousness' will be opposed by the 'Teacher of Lies' and the 'Wicked Priest.' These scrolls also predict the coming of TWO messiahs. These two messiahs are referred to as a priestly and a temporal messiah. What we had here was a society of very devout Jews who were convinced that the time of the coming of the two messiahs was at hand, therefore, they set about preparing for their advent by detaching themselves from the mainstream society, and dedicating their lives to their worship and the preparation for their imminent arrival.

'According to the dominant view in the sectarian texts from Qumran, two messiahs were to lead the congregation in the End of Days, one priestly, and the other lay'

Reclaiming the Dead Sea Scrolls, Lawrence H. Schiffman, pp. 321-322

In The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered, by Robert Eisenman and Michael Wise, we read that the early scrolls spoke of TWO messiahs, but that later on, the communities of the Jews began to combine them into one messiah:

'As we have suggested, contrary to the well-known ‘two-Messiah’ theory of early Qumran scholarship, these references to the ‘Messiah of Aaron and Israel’ in the Damascus Document are singular not plural... and one possible explanation for it is that it is evoking a Messiah with both priestly and kingly implications, like the somewhat similar recitations of Hebrews'

The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered, Robert Eisenman and Michael Wise, p. 162

The Jews had prophesies of two messiahs. The first was best known to them for his 'priestly' or 'ecclesiastic' works which he would perform. The second was best known to them for his 'kingly' or 'military' works. These two prophesies refer to Jesus (pbuh) and Muhammad (pbuh). Jesus (pbuh) was best know for his 'priestly' works. However, unlike prophets such as David and Moses (pbut), he never lead an army, he never established a kingdom or a government, nor did he call his followers to wage war. Quite the opposite, he always called to peace and submissiveness and to leave the rule of the land to others (Matthew 22:21). He told his followers that he yet had many things to teach them but they could not bear them yet and that another would be coming after him who would teach them the complete truth (John 16:7-14). Muhammad (pbuh) too began by preaching submissiveness and passiveness. However, his ministry was allowed by God Almighty to mature to a point where it was able to defend itself and establish justice in the earth and abolish evil. Thus, just as many Old Testament prophets had waged many wars against the pagans of the surrounding nations, so too Muhammad’s followers fought many wars in the name of God and the Islamic empire finally stretched from China to Spain. Even those who did not follow Muhammad (pbuh) knew him well. However, what did they know him for? They knew him for his 'kingly' actions and not for the 'priestly' side of him that his followers knew.

'And fight against them until persecution is no more and religion is for God alone. But if they desist then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers'

The noble Qur’an, Al-Bakarah(2):193.

'Those unto whom We gave the Scripture recognize him (Muhammad) as they recognize their sons. But verily, a party of them conceal the truth while they know it'

The noble Qur’an, al-Baqarah(2):146

Over time, the prophesies of the Jews began to become a little blurred, and this in addition to the continuous persecution of many nations towards the them eventually lead to their blending of these prophesies such that we find them in our present day to have combined them into one single prophesy wherein they await this one all-conquering wondrous event that would finally relieve them of their persecution and pave the way for them to march forth conquering all nations and establishing themselves as the protectors of the kingdom of God. However, as we can see from their prophesies, it was the second messiah who was to be known for his 'kingly' works, not the first.

For this reason, when we read the Gospel of Barnabas we find that when the Jews ask Jesus (pbuh) whether he is 'the messiah' he responds to them that he is not 'the messiah' that they are expecting. This appears to be because Jesus understood their question to be deeper than a mere search for a title. They were not asking how to address him, rather, they wanted to know whether he was the one who would lead them in fulfillment of their hopes for leadership, power, and grandeur that they had been waiting for for so many centuries. For this reason, he told them that he was not 'the Messiah', but that 'the Messiah' they were waiting for would not come until later. He was referring to the SECOND messiah in their prophesies (please go back and read chapter 6.1 of this book). Indeed, both Muslims as well as Christians are unanimous that Jesus was the 'Messiah' of God, however, Jesus appears in his response to have applied his wisdom and knowledge of his people and their expectations when answering their question.

Lawrence Schiffman says regarding Pesher Habakkuk:


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Jesus Victorious
4/25/2002 (13:45)
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A Muslim Converts to Christianity

In the Valley of Tears

I am Ibrahim who, for the sake of my family's security, go also by the nickname Timothy Abraham. I am a simple Egyptian from the Delta region. Farms surrounded me from every side with streams of the luxurious Nile River endowing life with fertility. I had a strong Islamic upbringing in my childhood, studying in the village shop for teaching the Quran (al-Kutaab). They taught me to fear God (Allah in Arabic) who created the Heaven and the earth in six days. There was not a single reason to doubt a religion which emphasized fearing God, doing good work and living a moral life. The recitation of the Quran was meant to produce a sense of tranquillity. I enjoyed the Sufi circle of worship, as they adored the person of Muhammad. This was Abu-al-Azayem's group. I was searching for more closeness with Allah Almighty.

One evening around 7:00 p.m. in al-Mahatta mosque, having finished praying al-Maghrib prayer, I was introduced to Muhammad Imam and Sulleiman Kahwash. They were vitally influential in incorporating me into their group 'The Muslim Brotherhood -- i.e., al-Ikhwan al-Muslimin.' They encouraged me to be a devout Muslim and fast on Monday and Thursday of every week and break the fast with them in the mosque where we ate bread, cheese, palm dates (tamr), and delicious salad. I diligently imitated every thing the Prophet Muhammad did, even the sitting posture of the Prophet as he was eating.

They were so kind to me. They also saw in me the potential of being an eloquent speaker. Therefore, Sulleiman Hashem, the leader at the time, approached me gently, 'Ibrahim, you are called by the Quran's teaching to proclaim the message of Islam 'da'awah.' 'My Allah!' I pondered. 'I am just 14 years old and I am easily intimidated.' Nevertheless, Sulleiman gave me a stack of books to study in preparation for the sermon I was to deliver the next day. From then on, it became customary for me to preach a sermon on the first Monday of every lunar month. I was filled with zeal as my leaders had arranged for me to go across the neighboring towns, preaching from mosque to mosque. I zealously wanted everyone to follow the Tradition of the Prophet Muhammad, and subsequently, my sister had no choice but to obey my Quranic command and wear the veil which indicated modesty. I needed my father's approval. I wondered if he had ever heard his son, the 14 year old Muslim evangelist preach.

To my astonishment my father was sharply criticized by people for having a son who was now a 'fanatic.' The Islamic Brotherhood was regarded as a religious gang by the majority of regular Muslims. My father, therefore, became wrathful over my Islamic radicalism and thoughtlessly punched me in the teeth. Today my front tooth is a fake one. It reminds me of my former perseverance to the point of death to be a zealous Muslim fundamentalist and my willingness to be persecuted for my commitment. My father burnt my Sunni (mostly wahabi and salafi) Islamic library. He knew quite well that Mohammad Mansour, a security police informer, was recording my sermons from the bathroom in the mosque. I was so strict in the fashion of the sunnah of Muhammad that I did not shake hands with women. I simply wanted to be a devout Muslim. Having finished their prayers in the mosque, my father stopped one of the leaders in my group, Sulleiman Hashem and asked him pleadingly to leave me, his son, alone. When my father swore an oath of divorce(hilif alaya bi al-talaaq) that I will not be permitted to enter the mosque where the Islamic Brotherhood is praying, I obeyed my father, but asked for mercy in letting me hear their sermons while sitting outside the mosque.

I was never daunted by any of this and continued to preach Islam everyday in the morning parade (taboor as-sabah) as well as in every mosque where I went to teach. It never occurred to me for a second that Islam could be wrong. In my pursuit to propagate Islam everywhere, a magazine came into my hands which had pen pal addresses from the United States. I chose one at random and wrote, hoping to convert the man into Islam. I wrote to John from Pennsylvania, USA back and forth for two years, each trying to convert the other. I read every book I could get hold of to refute the Bible. To make things worse, I had no respect for the Bible as I put my feet and shoes on it since the Quran taught me it was corrupt.

Then John surprised me by coming to visit me in my village. That was the first time I saw a real Christian. His sincerity, frankness, genuineness, and openness impressed me. John stayed with me for two months. He had an amazing prayer life which served as a model for me in my latter life. I did not know that Christians prayed until I saw a 'living epistle' right in the middle of my house, a man from a far off land who became one of us and genuinely incarnated the love of Christ. John had an amazing prayer life, for he prayed more than he talked, speaking the words of the Bible. I became jealous of John's intimacy with God and increased my recitations of the Quran.

Islam is a religion that has to be credited for teaching its followers to be virtuous, chaste, and benevolent. There is no doubt that Muhammad remains a genius in history. One has to also note that a Muslim may do as many good works as possible in this world and on the Day of Judgment God weighs the deeds of every individual in a 'balance.' The good deeds will be placed in one pan of the balance, and the evil deeds in the other. If the good deeds are heavier, then the believer will go to the paradise described in Quran as a place of sexual pleasure and frolicking with the wide-eyed huris (sura al-Waqia 56:20-23). However, Christ our Lord said 'For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven' (Matthew 22:30). My Muslim friend, according to Islam, if your evil deeds are heavier, you will be cast into the fires of hell. It looks like you would need to be only fifty-one percent good to get into paradise. Yet you remain absolutely unsure whether or not you are going to heaven. All you say, my Muslim friend, is, 'Only God Knows!' You hope for the mercy of Allah and hope that the angels or the Prophet will intercede for you in the last day, so you will be saved from Hell.

I was like you, my Muslim sister or brother, right in the same boat until I knew that you can be absolutely sure of going to Heaven. Tears well up in my eyes just to recall how lost I was and now that I am found. While trembling in tears, seeing the majesty of God, I rejoice to know that I have eternal life for certain.

God in the Bible is both just and merciful. His justice requires that everyone be punished in Hell, for He is perfect 100 percent. No matter how hard we try to please God, we always fall short of His perfection. Our good works will not bring us closer to God. God saw our insufficiency, and decided to pay the penalty Himself. He sent His Word Isa Al Masih (Jesus Christ), who is absolutely sinless and faultless to carry the punishment of our sins on the cross. What can you say to the Judge when He chooses to pay your penalty for you? The Bible says in John 3:16 'For God so loved the world that he gave His only Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.' It is because God loves us that He sent His Word, Jesus Christ, to die for us. Islam never grants us the assurance of going to Heaven, but Christ absolutely does! Praise God! Thank you, my Lord, for sovereignly choosing to pay the price Yourself in the Person of Your incarnate Word, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is the express revelation of the nature of Allah Almighty.

After John left, his influence stayed. I thought I would depress John by saying, 'John, your visit made me a stronger Muslim in the faith and do not try to convert Muslims anymore.' Yet John prevailed in his supplication and prayers. His intercessory prayer moved the LORD to wake me up in the middle of the night as I had no sleep or rest. Inner conflict reached its zenith. Restless, I reached out to my Bible and opened it at random. I found, 'Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?' I remember one day in the heat of a debate between me and John, I made fun of the Bible and said, 'John, your Bible is the most absurd thing! How can you believe the story of Saul who became Paul, the servant of the Gospel?' John said, 'The story is true, and that is why I am patient with you. You will be another Paul one day!' I replied, 'John, you must be out of your mind to think for a second that I could leave the religion of all religions, Islam!' Reflecting on 'Saul, Saul ...' I said Lord! Me? Me persecute You? I did nothing to You in person ... I remember I turned in a female medical student to the police ... but I did nothing to You. Is it true that He who touched one of Your people touches the apple of Your eye?'

Islam denies the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ because the Quran intended to deprive the Jew of the victory they claimed was their in Jesus' death. The Quran asserts that God put somebody who looked like Him on the cross in the place of Jesus. Now my Muslim friends, God is not in the business of fraud, for if he had wanted to deliver Jesus from the cross, He could have done it miraculously without having to deceive and put Jesus' likeness on someone else.

This Quranic error is too blatant, and proves that the Quran has no divine origin. What is more, the Quran is self-contradicting, for while it claims that the Jews did not really kill Jesus it also affirms very distinctly the reality of Jesus' death in the sura of the family of Imran 3:47/54 - 48/55 as it states:

When God said: 'OH JESUS, I SHALL CAUSE YOU TO DIE,

AND THEN I SHALL RAISE YOU UP TO ME.'

My Muslim friend, my goal is not here to proselytize you, but to raise the ultimate questions, Who is Christ? Was he crucified? And how does this affect you? If the whole history of humanity revolves around Christ, then my entire life and existence should revolve around Him too. Denying the cross of Christ is contradicting history itself. Muhammad himself is claimed in the Quran to have been urged, by God, to refer to the People of the Book (the Jews and the Christians) is he in doubt concerning the Quran?:

'And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which we reveal unto thee, then ask those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee.' Sura Yunus 10:95

For the first time in my life, I began asking the question 'why?' and challenged everything I took for granted. All postulates were critically examined. This got me into trouble in an authoritarian society. Questions, they say, fly in the face of Allah. Obey. That is All. In the Islamic Brotherhood, our motto was 'samaana wa ataana' i.e. 'we have heard and obeyed.' After years of study, I came to two logical conclusions: The Bible is the inerrant Word of God, and Jesus is the Word of God. I began to see it was possible for Jesus to be God. Intellectually, I accepted all the claims of the Christian faith, but in my heart I still feared being struck dead for calling the Almighty God 'My Father.' I needed a miracle! The Bible teaches us that no one can say, 'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:3). No wonder every Salvation experience is one of a miracle of birth out of death into eternal life!

From the depth of my heart, in the midst of inner conflict, I cried out to Allah, even in the mosque, 'Lord, show me the truth! Is it Jesus or Muhammad? Could it be that You are my Father? Show me the truth, and the truth you lead me to I will serve all my life whatever the cost may be!' I burst into tears since I knew the cost could be outrageously too high for a weak, thin person like me. For how could I afford to be cast out of my family and sleep on the streets like a homeless person? And what if my leaders in the Islamic Brotherhood would find out about me? And what if they, in their Islamic righteousness and zeal, rush on to defend Islam and kill me? According to the Islamic religion, an apostate should be given a three day opportunity to recant, and after that the infidel's blood is legitimately shed in the name of Allah! The words of the Prophet Muhammad kept ringing in my ear, 'Any person (i.e., Muslim) who has changed his religion, kill him.' This tradition has been narrated by AbuBakr, Uthman, Ali, Muadh ibn Jabal, and Khalid ibn Walid. Yet I persisted in asking God to guide me.

Guide me, O Thou great Jehovah, pilgrim through this barren land; I am weak, but Thou art mighty.

One night Christ appeared to me in a dream and said with a tender sweet voice, 'I love you!' I saw how obstinately I had resisted Him all these years and said to Him in tears, 'I love You, too! I know You! You are eternal for ever and ever.' I woke up with tears all over my face filled with abundant joy, believing that Christ Himself touched both my mind and my heart, and I yielded. I was filled with great passion for Christ, jumping up and down, singing praises to His name and talking to Him day and night. I would not even sleep without God's inerrant Word, the Bible, next to my chest.

I experienced what a 'spoiled child' of God would: God would give me anything I ask for in prayer. But then the Lord wanted me to love Him and worship Him for His own sake, not for what I get from Him. I tried to keep my faith secret and so was baptized secretly in a pastor's house.

Filled with the joy of salvation I could not hide or deny Christ anymore. Therefore, when my childhood friend asked me if Christ was crucified, I answered, 'Yes!' and explained why. He prayed with me to receive Christ. He was shaking and perspiring every time he prayed with me. He could see how mighty the name of our Lord Jesus was. My former leaders in the Islamic fanatical group, desiring to know who the spearhead was, threatened to kill him if he would not tell them everything about my evangelism. Sadly, he betrayed me and I was beaten up in front of the mosque where I had formerly preached Islam zealously. In their sight I was a blasphemous infidel who deserved to be killed unless I would recant. They regarded my conversion as the most horrendous form of desecrating Islam and the Quran.

Since my secret conversion was now made public and Muslims plotted to kill me, I had to flee. I was hunted by Muslims from my village in the Delta, to Ismailia until I arrived in Cairo where my Christian friends lived. Yet Christians were not willing to shelter me and I had to go back to the village, seeking refuge in His protective hands. I came back from Cairo and found an angry mob of Muslims filling up our house. My mother was wearing the garment of mourning, dressed in black as is the custom in Egypt. To them by deserting Islam, I was dead!!! Muslim women yelled at me, 'Your mother doesn't deserve all this from you. Why cause her all this grief?' Another woman lamented, 'Poor mother! Her son left her for the Christian infidels. If I were her, I would kill my son for running after the infidels like a dog.' I received a letter from a friend in Jordan who reported that my father was walking down the streets in Jordan weeping bitterly as Muslim laborers there reproached him severely. He stayed sick in bed for a month because of this until he and I talked on the phone.

It is absolutely unforgettable that outraged Muslims broke into our house barbarically. My mother knelt down at the feet of our neighbor 'Sayed' begging him to spare my life and kill her instead. In such indescribable agony, my mother disowned and disinherited me before all people in my village. I love my mother more dearly than any person in this world, but no human power, regardless of how gigantic it is, can separate me from the love of Christ. I will always live for Jesus.

My Bible, all my Christian books, and music tapes were confiscated and burnt. I decided to flee from the Delta region to Cairo. Even though the police were tracking me down, the Lord blinded their eyes and protected me. In Cairo, I was hiding at M.'s, an Egyptian Baptist friend who was comforting me all the time. I broke down when he read,

'So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name' (Acts 5:41)

I am grateful to God for providing this friend, M., who discipled me, teaching me to live a victorious life rich in worship and thanksgiving. He gave me a pocket Arabic New Testament and told me frankly that his parents were afraid. Also I was told that if they continued to hide me they would be in jail forever. I had nowhere to go. So, upon the advice of my secret pastor, I went back to the village, hiding the Arabic New Testament in my socks, praying that it would not fall out. I was eventually arrested and released repeatedly. I learned what it means to have God as my only Hiding Place. In prison, my Savior knows I have come to experience true peace. I was not shaken because I saw Christ in prison, not myself. I sang songs of joy in the midst of tears, anticipating the shining Morning Star to come and deliver me. I decided to hide the Bible in a place where the police could not confiscate it -- in my heart by memorizing it. I have since made it a habit to sleep with my Bible by my side. Five years later, I managed to flee Muslims' attempts to kill me and I was shocked to find out that there are some professing Christians in America who attack the Bible for which I was willing to die. God's word has given me promises of faith which I apply as a little child and pray them through in confidence. The gates of Heaven open as we pray through God's Word. His word speaks life!!!

Once when I went to give my mother a Mother's Day gift, she asked me rhetorically, 'Mother's Day gift?' I answered, 'Yes' every time she repeated the question. She looked at me with such crushing grief and said, 'My son, whom I waited 15 years to have and finally was born is now dead. I disown you till the day of judgment, Ibrahim.' I cried but Christ touched my heart and said, 'I am your family now! I am your father, brother, mother, sister, friend, and everything to you, Timothy, now.' I cannot forget those days when my mother would call the police to arrest me. She even went to a witch to put a curse on me and bring me back to the fold of Islam. The witch said, 'Your son is following a path which he will never forsake and he will be victorious all his life as long as he walks in it.' These words, from the mouth of a witch, brought my younger brother to know Christ. The testimony of demons about our victorious Lord renders skepticism and unbelief absurd (Please read Romans 8:35-39). You also can be more than a conqueror through Christ, your Victor who loves you! Believe it!

I lost my Bible and all my Christian books were confiscated. All I had was the radio. I went sneakily to get my radio to listen secretly to Voice of Hope, searching for some comfort-songs in the night. (By the way, I speak now publicly over Voice of Hope since I live in a free country, America). Yet my mother caught me and she immediately snatched the radio out of my hand and beat me on the head with her shoes. I was just 20 years old at that time. I prayed for a Bible and the Lord heard me. I went to pick up a Bible package from the post office. The head of the post office, Kamal, slapped me forcefully and punched me in the face. I saw all kinds of terror...I was crying from the intensity of pain. He said to me,'You just go after these Christian infidels, leave Islam and we will wipe you out. We will send you behind the sun!' I felt trapped praying fervently to leave Egypt and practice my faith in Christ. Father of comfort, you never left me. Please remind me of your Son hanging on the cross crying out in the depth of agony,' My God, my God why have you forsaken me?' Lord Jesus, they all forsook you, and yet You found rest in Your Father. I need to depend on the Father as you did'.

After 3 years, I decided to move to Cairo which was not any safer. The last time the police had arrested me they said, 'According to us, you are an infidel who has committed high treason. Next time we arrest you, it will be capital punishment.' To make it worse, the 'Christian' landlord told me he could not shelter a fugitive criminal anymore. I was not welcome in my own country anymore. Nevertheless, the Lord intervened, and a Palestinian evangelist, Anis Shorrosh, introduced me to Dr. Paige Patterson. He began to help me apply for a visa to the United States. At first, I was denied the visa, but Dr. Patterson did not give up. Finally, I was granted an entry visa, and I was supernaturally able to leave Egypt. Lord, You never deliver your children out of bondage to bring them back into it...Help me to live somewhere to practice my Christian faith without the police harassment. Lord, please do whatever it takes so I don't have to live in an environment where people would force me to go into the mosque. You want your children to worship freely even if this means fleeing for their lives like me so that Christ becomes all in all.

If it had not been for Dr. Patterson, I would have been history today. I was scheduled to be executed, and God saw that He had more work for me to do. So, he used Dr. Patterson in supernaturally rescuing my life. God Almighty is a Father of the fatherless (Psalm 68:5), and when my father and mother forsake me, as David declares, the LORD holds me to Himself. Is God the Almighty, Your Heavenly Father, my friend? (Galatians 4:6) God the Almighty and Majestic One delights in you personally (Proverbs 8:31).

Having fled to the United States, I was still afraid that I would have to face the Egyptian police authorities someday, especially in view of the fact that I came on a student visa, which could expire any day. According to the Egyptian government I am an infidel who has defamed Islam as well as caused national disunity. Allah alone knows how I have no hard feelings towards either Egypt, the motherland, or Islam. Preachers offered to hide me in ranches, if worse came to worse. I just wanted to live and not to be the scapegoat of somebody's religious wrath. One ministry organization sponsored me and sent a petition for my permanent residency. After six long years of waiting, the Lord honored my request by giving me permanent residence a few days before the wedding day, April 18,1998. I did not want anybody to falsely accuse me that I married a woman so that I may get a green card. I have married Angela for her own sake, and not for the sake of getting a green card. I give Angela all of me, for the source of our love is divine. It is never a fleeting emotion, but a covenant in which the LORD is the Witness between me and the wife of my youth, my partner and my best friend. (Malachi 2:14)

Here it is the time for me to praise God for the gift of marriage. It is when I abandoned myself to God and the godly desire of marriage that he brought along Angela. Angela is the angel of God to my heart. She is beautiful both internally and externally. We both share the same vision in manifesting the love of Christ to our Muslim brothers and sisters. I did not compromise for less than what I knew Allah wanted me to have: Angela is a woman of prayer, caring affectionate, hospitable, giving and gregarious. She is perfect for me. I revel in the fact that she loves my parents and gives sacrificially to them. Lord, what did I do to be treated with such extravagant kindness of yours that you give me a wife who loves me and my family? The Lord honored me for putting Him above my desire to have a wife, and now we are a praying couple. Indeed, our Creator and Redeemer is our ultimate Matchmaker.

Lord, may I never be secure or seek easiness in life at the expense of union with You. Didn't you tell us Lord, 'And you will be hated by all on account of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he shall be saved' (Mark 13:13)? Please don't let me rush your salvation, Lord, in the midst of trouble, but please give me patience so I can endure hardships as a soldier of the cross of Christ! Lord, may Your love consume me to such an extent that the doing of your will would be the real bread of my life. In Christ's name, amen!

My friends, please feel free to contact me through my email at JesusVictr@aol.com

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truth
4/25/2002 (13:53)
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I already answered this post 2 weeks ago on this forum!!
You have to read back.
reply by
truth
4/25/2002 (13:56)
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I already answered this post 2 weeks ago on this forum!!
You have to read back.

Nice try 'Seth.'

Don't bs us.
You have no answer to this.
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truth
4/25/2002 (13:58)
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You are too lazy to do the effort in click 'next 100 posts ' and reading through posts?????????
what happened to defending your idiology ???
Or have a hot date ?
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TheAZCowBoy
4/25/2002 (17:13)
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Hey, TheAZCowBoy has not posted any of the drivel on this poster board.

Seth, if this is you--you will get the circumcision of your life when I get hold of your Jewish arse!

'Squeeze the juice Arafat!'

TAC,
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_______________________
4/25/2002 (17:44)
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Wrong again dick-for-brains.

:0
reply by
Edward
4/25/2002 (18:41)
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AZCOWBOY..!!
Those ADL zionists
are trying to defame you. Be careful. They are planing to assasin your Identity.
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truth
4/25/2002 (20:58)
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well it did not work with me .. An idiot is the one who read the nickname of a message and does not read the content of the post it self.. my name is not truth to start with neither do I claim to have an ANGLE on it.
It is the content of the message that matters not the messenger.!
Reading the zionist propaganda helped me understand at least where they are coming from and see there point of refrence.!! not on this forum how ever since posters here that are prozionist really have no clue what zionism is all about.!
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Seth Sims
4/25/2002 (23:24)
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Hee Hee. I see someone is tweaking AZCowboys nose pretty hard.

THANK YOU!!
Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Feel free to credit me for it. It's a great idea.