Is he existence of so many religious types and sects and creeds regretable?
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John Calvin
4/28/2002 (13:36)
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Ought it to be assumed that in all men the mixture of religion with other elements should be identical? Ought it, indeed, to be assumed that the lives of all men should show identical religious elements? In other words, is the existence of so many religious types and sects and creeds regrettable?

To these questions I answer 'No' emphatically. And my reason is that I do not see how it is possible that creatures in such different positions and with such different powers as human individuals are, should have exactly the same functions and the same duties. No two of us have identical difficulties, nor should we be expected to work out identical solutions. Each, from his peculiar angle of observation, takes in a certain sphere of fact and trouble, which each must deal with in a unique manner. One of us must soften himself, another must harden himself; one must yield a point, another must stand firm,- in order the better to defend the position assigned him. If an Emerson were forced to be a Wesley, or a Moody forced to be a Whitman, the total human consciousness of the divine would suffer. The divine can mean no single quality, it must mean a group of qualities, by being champions of which in alternation, different men may all find worthy missions. Each attitude being a syllable in human nature's total message, it takes the whole of us to spell the meaning out completely. So a 'god of battles' must be allowed to be the god for one kind of person, a god of peace and heaven and home, the god for another. We must frankly recognize the fact that we live in partial systems, and that parts are not interchangeable in the spiritual life. If we are peevish and jealous, destruction of the self must be an element of our religion; why need it be one if we are good and sympathetic from the outset? If we are sick souls, we require a religion of deliverance; but why think so much of deliverance, if we are healthy-minded? * Unquestionably, some men have the completer experience and the higher vocation, here just as in the social world; but for each man to stay in his own experience, whate'er it be, and for others to tolerate him there, is surely best.

William James
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John Calvin
4/28/2002 (13:40)
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God is the natural appellation, for us Christians at least, for the supreme reality, so I will call this higher part of the universe by the name of God. * We and God have business with each other; and in opening ourselves to his influence our deepest destiny is fulfilled. The universe, at those parts of it which our personal being constitutes, takes a turn genuinely for the worse or for the better in proportion as each one of us fulfills or evades God's demands.

William James
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truth
4/28/2002 (14:08)
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All abrahamic relegions WERE the same at the time they were given . .. and the devil have also been the same ..
The methods of seductions and swaying away from god's way is the same and have remained the same for all humanity..
Are you telling me that women today do not chase after the FORBIDDEN (just like eve did).
Man still craves more power no matter how far he gets .. he still want more ...
Stil man would kill is brother for a better woman or land or money.!
People of faith still get tempted into villifying every one else who does not share there belifs 100000 %.
Idolism is still alive and well in this age where materialism is king.
People are still welling to kill people just for saying 'THERE IS BUT ONE GOD'.
It is happening as we speak.
Greed still runs the world .. and the rightous are still fighting it .. and the devil still up to its same old ways ... If he can not make you denounce your faith .. at least he will make you go into the extreme .. and if not he' ll make you unable to pass it to your children. .. !!!!
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John Calvin
4/28/2002 (18:01)
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My question is whether women 'chase after the Forbidden, men kill their brother for land and money, people villify others beliefs ( usually not bothering to actually know or undewrstand what those beliefs are), kill each other for saying things like 'There is but one God' BECAUSE of their religion or CONTRARY to the professions of their religion? I am attacking the idea that if, somehow, we could 'crush religion' ( that dirty superstition which has plagued man since the beginning of history), all these evils would be ended!

This seems to me absurd, though I am afraid this is what many Americans think they mean by 'secular humanism' and modernity.

Meanwhile, while we are treated to a fanciful catalogue of all the horrendous murders and injustices perpetrated by religion down through the ages, the Good of religion is pretty much ignored. Like Hospitals- I don't mean the present manifestation of hospitals- but the IDEA of Hospitals. The idea of Colleges and Universities,. the idea of Peace and Toleration, the Idea of a greater and truer reality and a saving Grace- the notion that their may be a criteria of truth that surpasses the contemporary understanding of today's most popular 'persionality', or 'scientific' hypothesis.

Don't you think it is a good idea to have reference to a notion that represents the puny, insignificant and helpless character of Mankind, instead of always having to listen to people bragging as if they were Gods!
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..ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS
4/29/2002 (1:08)
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ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS ARE A GREAT EVIL ON THIS WORLD... THEY HAVE GIVEN US CHRISTIAN CRUSADES & INQUISITIONS, MUSLIM JIHADS ... JEWISH LAND GRABS.. ...LEBENSRAUM & ETHNIC CLEANSINGS... Better Go To... atheist.org ...