What's the deal here?

What's the deal here?

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Topic: What's the deal here?

topic by
WASP
4/29/2002 (10:31)

I know little about the history of these mid-east squabbles that seem to perpetually distract the western countries from their own citizens welfare. But I fail to see why we are all supposed to put our lives on hold to appease a segment of the world's population that refuses to accept their failure to thrive as members of the human race. Excuse me but is it not a fact that certain arab countries waged war against Israel and wound up getting their collective asses soundly whooped?

Is the concept of pride absent from Islamic culture? Why do they fail to appreciate the importance, significance and reality of Darwinism? Survival of the fittest. To the victor goes the spoils of war. Has this not always been the case throughout the history of mankind's brief tenure on this planet?

It seems to me that Israel has acted in an exceptionally generous and civilized fashion towards the losers. Have they not returned much prized and scarce real estate that was gained during the various hostilities they defeated? If the Arab aggressors had prevailed in their plans would they have shown the same kindness? Of course not. They would have tried to complete Hitlers vision for the Jews.

I feel sorry for those Palestinians, who I know must exist, that despise the quality of life they have gained under the 'leadership' of the deranged cowardly terrorist Yasser Arafat. But I have to assume their number is very small though; how else to explain he hasn't been summarily tried and executed by his own people.

So what are we to do with these miserable muslim savages who parade around hysterically with explosives strapped around their waists convinced they are slaves of some Allah god described in some book written hundreds of years ago.

All Islamic extremist need to get a life that deals with the world as it is today. We don't have the Japanese and Germans suicide bombing the people who brought them to heel. If a bunch of arab states were stupid enough to attack a country that was so vastly superior militarily such that a mere 6 days was all they required to slap them into submission....... Well then please forgive those of us who find you rather pathetic examples of the human race.

Show a modicum of humility, por favor. Stop acting like wretched dogs. Cease your embarrassingly insane rants about death to the so-called infidels and the absurd fantasy that Islamic culture will take over the world. Its time muslim militants feel grateful that we don't seek their end as they do ours. Because we can actually wipe them out whereas they can only dream of such power. The world is lucky that we not them control it.

reply by
Observer
4/29/2002 (10:40)

wasp writes much wisdom.
prepare for villification mr. wasp.
you have angered the mer gods.
they will hurt you.

reply by
truth
4/29/2002 (11:30)

'I know little about the history of these mid-east squabbles'
Why do not you know more befor forming an opinion then ??
Go to
http://www.google.com
and look for middle east hostory and israel history and islam and so on ..
You also can read the past articles in this forum .. click on next 100 messages .. a lot of history is there ..!!!
Then we can talk.

reply by
TheAZCowBoy
4/29/2002 (12:40)

Hey Wasp, bigots like you make the Holocaust seem like an over sized German sponsored pinata party!

Done Alyiah yet?

Better hurry, the Treblinka ovens are being refurbished by GE, of 'We make good things happen,' fame!

TheAZCowBoy,

reply by
WASP
4/29/2002 (12:44)

truth,

Unless I'm mistaken about the general issues I alluded to then I know enough to form the opinion I expressed.

You have not corrected me so I must not have made any relevant errors. I have no time or interest in reviewing the specific details of the history. I'm tired of having it shoved in my face on a daily basis recently. I'd rather that our governments spend time working on their own citizens myriad of concerns. Isn't that the reason they exist? Yasser Arafat is unconcerned with the homeless people that freeze to death on the downtown streets of Toronto, Canada every winter. He spends no time or expense seeking a solution to the problems in Northern Ireland that effect the Brits. He has yet to address the concerns of American single mom's without health insurance.

But Arafat expects the rest of the world to consume themselves with what he considers important. Why is that?

reply by
truth
4/29/2002 (13:15)

Too many miss facts in your post to even begin a non antagonistic discussion with you.
You have nothing to say about Arafat unless you study the 72 years which he lived... the formation of Israel .. and the nature of the state of Israel and the conditions of the entire generation which Arafat is supposed to be governing.
You can not discuss a book until you read it .. not just a review brief by a biased critic .. READ THE BOOK!
You said 'Arafat is unconcerned with the homeless people that freeze to death on the downtown streets of Toronto, Canada every winter. He spends no time or expense seeking a solution to the problems in Northern Ireland that effect the Brits. He has yet to address the concerns of American single mom's without health insurance. '
This is so apples and oranges it is not funny .. to compare genocide to social injustice is plain evil and idiotic. To disregard the role that American tax dollars play in that continuing crime against humanity that is called the state of Israel is also not realistic .. and if September 11th did not drive the issue of that coming back to haunt us then we will have no say on what is ahead.!!
A homeless person in downtown Toronto has much less to fear than a medical doctor in a hospital in ramallah!
An uninsured single mother in America is in a way better situation than a mother who has 9 kids in her life sacrificing any chance of well being just to make sure she ends up with on or two in her old age after Israel’s kill the rest.!
As for Ireland .. I would tell to check your resources on that .. but since you said you have none I do not have that option do I ?

reply by
Observer
4/29/2002 (13:33)

wasp.
did i not warn you about the wankers here.
keep up the fight for justice and truth.

reply by
WASP
4/29/2002 (13:41)

The AZCowBoy,

You're quite the character. You spew hatred for Jews and you call me a bigot. I hate militant muslim losers who can't cut it in this world and throw temper tantrums instead of figuring out how best to improve their lot in life.

Why do you hate Jews? They look like one of the human race's winners to me.

What's Alyiah?

reply by
truth
4/29/2002 (13:43)

Good choice wasp .. get it on with azcowboy !!

reply by
Who is AZCowboy
4/29/2002 (14:39)

http://www.aboutbritain.com/Forums/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=30

reply by
WASP
4/29/2002 (16:07)

truth,

What has 9/11 got to do with Palestinians other than the fact that they held street parties while the civilized world offered help, shed tears, felt rage? That evil deed was carried out by fanatical Saudi criminals who think its against Allah's wishes or something to have 'infidels' on the holy land of muslims. bin laden only pretends to care about the Palestinian situation as it is convenient to do so.

If the state of Israel were carrying out crimes against humanity the US wouldn't keep supporting them and the UN would be dealing with them as a criminal state.

I'm a British citizen so that's my source on Northern Ireland.

The fact still remains that Israel was attacked by multiple Arab states and kicked their impertinent, arrogant asses. Now its time for them to behave. Britain behaved when the Americans sent them packing 200+ yrs. ago, now they're the best of friends. Japan behaved after a really big bomb was dropped on more than a few of their heads, now the Japanese enjoy the highest standard of living in Asia. Germany behaved after the Allies showed them how, now Germany too is a respected member of the civilized world and enjoys a high standard of living.

Arafat need only be willing to stop inciting his children to blow themselves up in the proximity of innocent Jews. Just simply behave, and one day Palestinians can enjoy life as we all want them too.

reply by
Observer
4/29/2002 (16:47)

extremely well put WASP.

reply by
WASP
4/29/2002 (19:11)

Observer,

Thanks for understanding and appreciating the uncomplicated truth I seek to point out. There certainly are a lot of wankers here. It amazes me that the US media is so maligned in this forum as Israeli biased. CNN seems hated by many posters here but Al Jezeera must be doing a fair job due to the lack of criticism. CNN at least tries to find the truth.

After Jenin CNN showed the PA's claim 500+ were massacred. Then they showed Al Jezeera news state 10,000 were killed. So far only 52 bodies have been found in Jenin and even a captured terrorist who was there says the claims are false.

The bulldung slung around by the arab media is disgraceful and can only hurt their cause.

reply by
My View
4/29/2002 (20:10)

Hey WASP,
The question is not whether the arab media is fair. The US media claims to be the most free in the world. But it is so blatantly biased against the Palestinians. The US government threatens to cut off ais to Serbia unless they hand over war criminals, and rightly so. But the same givernment keeps supplying Ariel Sharon with guns and planes to destroy everything Palestinian. This guy is wanted for war crimes in Belgium. Where is the fairness in it? If you accept that it is OK to be unfair, than let's not complain about the suicide bombers and Bin Laden.

Also, you talk about Darwinism and freedom in the same breath. They are not compatible. Do youu really want to live in a world fashioned by darwinism where you stronger neighbor could take your land, rape your wife and kill you children. That is what Israel has done.

And the jury is still out on whether the Jews are real winners.
BTW, I completely agree that I am glad it is we who are incharge. I would not want the world to be made in the image of Saudi Arabia.

reply by
carol
4/30/2002 (1:14)

The voice of reason comes out of Britain. Rule Brittania...Brittania rules the waves. They are lumberjacks and they're okay. They work all day and sleep all night.