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John Calvin
5/10/2002 (21:41)
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The White Stuff

Professor Robert Griffin: Open-minded academic or Aryan apologist?

BY JOHN DICKER

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Robert Griffin has slept next to the enemy, but not necessarily with him. In the summer of 1998, the University of Vermont education professor spent six weeks living on a 364-acre compound in West Virginia. His host was a man who is typically described as “America’s leading neo-Nazi,” with words like racist, violent and hater trailing close behind. His name is William Pierce.
“He’s the most fascinating human being I’ve ever been around — ever,” says the tall, silver-haired Griffin in his modest office in UVM’s Waterman Building. “Whatever you think of him, I found him to be a man of integrity and courage and dedication, and in his eyes he is doing the most important thing he can think of with his life,” Griffin continues. “Those have become standards that I’ve applied in my own life.”

Pierce isn’t the only controversial subject Griffin has taken on. Last October, the professor published an article entitled “Rearing Honorable White Children: Instilling Racial Identity in Today’s Child-ren.” The piece appeared in American Renaissance, a journal that links inferior intelligence, criminal activity and sexual depravity to non-whites. The publication’s editor, Jared Taylor, heads a nonprofit foundation that has been classified as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

These are curious credentials for a teacher at a liberal institution in a state that elected a socialist congressman and legalized civil unions. Earlier this year, the student-government-funded branch of the International Socialist Organization canceled a meeting rather than tolerate the presence of a “right-wing” observer. Plans are currently in the works for separate housing to be offered for gay and lesbian students. In this left-leaning — and politically correct — environment, Griffin’s non-condemning portraits of white supremacists challenge the unspoken code of liberalism while pushing the envelope of academic freedom.

Critics claim Griffin is an apologist for white supremacists, that he hides his true beliefs behind the screen of academia. But these charges have come mainly from off-campus. Aside from a short piece about his parenting article in the student-run Cynic, Griffin’s writings have made barely a ripple at his home institution. One faculty member credited the lack of controversy to the fact that Griffin is “a loner” disinclined to share his political views, much less his recent publications, with colleagues. Griffin himself suggests he is not an advocate but a conduit for the ideas of his subjects and the minds of his readers, which he hopes are open.

Griffin, who taught a graduate seminar entitled “Conservative, Libertarian and Far Right Views on Education” this semester, isn’t publishing this research in mainstream scholarly journals. In October 2000 he uploaded his monograph, The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds: An Up-Close Portrait of White Nationalist William Pierce, onto www.mightywords.com, the now-defunct e-book subsidiary of Barnes & Noble. His agent had shopped the book around to major publishers, who consistently passed it over.

“Nobody said they had political or cultural objections to the book,” Griffin recalls. “They just said, ‘Nobody’s interested in this book.” Nevertheless, Fame sprang to life online, ascending to mightywords’ number-one slot and holding steady for the rest of the fall. Griffin’s book is now available through the vanity press First Books Library.

If you’re still drawing a blank at the name William Pierce, perhaps you’ll recognize his opus. Under the pen name Andrew Macdonald, Pierce wrote The Turner Diaries, a futuristic race-war novel that has served as a primer for the radical right since its publication in 1978. The book’s most notorious adherent was Timothy McVeigh, who distributed copies of Diaries at gun shows and to his Army buddies, often at his own expense. When McVeigh was apprehended by police after the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in April 1995, he was in possession of passages from The Turner Diaries that described the bombing of an FBI building using a truck packed with explosives.

Pierce also heads the National Alliance, a group the SPLC calls “the best organized, most revolutionary neo-Nazi organization in America.” In the early ’80s, National Alliance members in the Pacific Northwest formed a cell called The Order, taking its name from the elite group in The Turner Diaries. They carried out bank robberies and murders, including that of Denver radio talk-show host Allan Berg in 1984.

The right wing has also embraced Griffin’s book about Pierce — as is evident in certain corners of the Internet. Raves have come from www.Ilovewhitefolks. com, and customer reviewers on Amazon.com award it five stars before launching into their own politics. One of the latter called Fame a “European American ‘must-read’ book” that “should be on the top of every patriot’s reading list. Unlike the major media that paint ANY pro-white advocist [sic] as a devil-worshipping, homicidal, toothless spewer of race hating nonsense — this book describes the reality and determination behind a man that is a true leader in the Aryan movement. A man that dares to tell the truth is always feared… Dr. William L. Pierce.”

On Pierce’s own National Alliance Web site, just above the “Ethnic Clean-sing” video game, you can find a description of Griffin’s book, with a link to its page on Amazon. “People who read Dr. Griffin’s book themselves will understand why New York publishers are afraid of it. It is an extensive, perceptive, objective and easily assimilable synopsis of the National Alliance message, as well as a fair-minded portrait of Dr. Pierce.”

Griffin does not have a problem with Pierce promoting his book. “That’s his call,” the professor says. “I live a very private life. I write these things, I get them out. In a way, it’s sort of an artist’s mentality: I paint a picture, I do it the best I can… Am I proud of this book? Yes. Would I do it again? Yes. Would I think that it’s a positive contribution? Yes. Do I think that everybody thinks that? No.”

Griffin makes no bones about the purpose of his Pierce bio. “It’s not a book of advocacy or even a book of analysis or a critique. It’s a book of explication,” he says. “By looking at someone like Pierce in an anthropological way, you might be able to make more sense of mainstream American life.”

Professor Robert Nash defends his long-time colleague in the education department and points out the hypocrisy of those who judge him harshly. “As a journalist and participant observer, he is not affirming Pierce’s views, but rather he is presenting the ideas and deeds of Pierce and others like him, in order to let his readers draw their own conclusions,” Nash opines. “If he were doing exactly this kind of writing on more politically and educationally acceptable figures, there would be no controversy.”

Griffin also took an “anthropological” approach in researching the inner educational workings of two families for the article he published in American Renaissance. Both chose to home-school their children in order to shield them from a youth culture that promotes “race mixing” and a school system they believe degrades their Western heritage.

Griffin, whose earlier work focused on secondary education and the role of sports in children’s lives, says he knew no professional journal would have accepted the piece. “I published very easily until I started to move to the right of center politically,” he explains. “I believe there is censorship in America and what we read is managed. Much of what we know is not on the basis of direct experience, and one of the things [Fame] is about, tacitly, is the contrast between what I found and what investigative reporters say people are.”

Like his book on Pierce, Griffin’s parenting article is not a polemic, but rather a vehicle for the views of his subjects. To the extent that he espouses an opinion in the story, it’s a sense of respect for the parents’ discipline and conviction, and the curiosity, intelligence and overall sociability of their children.

“I wasn’t writing a race article there,” says the author. “I was writing an article about people for whom race was a central dimension of their life, in their identity… A lot of the people I met as a byproduct of writing this book did not fit the stereotype of what we’re told. They were not ignorant, bigoted, hate-filled people who were preoccupied with minorities. I didn’t see any of these parents teaching people to be anti-Semitic, or anti-minority. They were trying to ground these kids in their heritage, and I think a lot of people do that, whether it’s the Jewish heritage or a political orientation.”

Chip Berlet, a senior analyst at the Boston-based Political Research Associates, has a different view. “This is a piece of journalism essentially promoting white separatist reality,” he asserts.

SPLC researcher Mark Potok adds, “This is a piece that nominally is reporting on some people whose views Griffin may or may not share. I think that in five minutes of reading the piece any intelligent person can see that he is in every way defending and apologizing for these people.”



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Griffin’s attraction to the ideas of Pierce and other white-rights advocates may stem from his own working-class roots in the American heartland. The son of a barber and a homemaker, Griffin hails from St. Paul, Minnesota. He was the first in his family to graduate from high school, not to mention college. Like many in his generation, he joined the Army as a means of escape. Ironically, the move might have cost him his chance to play professional baseball. A major-league scout found him after he’d signed up. With the help of the G.I. bill, Griffin later earned a Ph.D. at the University of Minnesota. He got tenure at UVM in 1980.

Now 61, Griffin says his background motivated him to work harder. “I thought I was going to starve,” he says. “I hear all this talk about white privilege, and my people have never done anything but cut hair,” Griffin says. “I want everybody to realize the promise of America — that means black and white and Asian and Jewish people, and whoever I’ve left out, but that includes a white boy from rural Vermont.”

Griffin claims he does not want any child “turned away from his heritage. I don’t want him to feel that he has to be deferential or sacrificial to some other group or step aside. I think we’re all in the front row in America, all of us, including white people,” he adds, “and I don’t want to hear anyone trashed.”

Those who track extremist hate groups in the U.S. are not moved by the professor’s reasoning. “The point that Griffin never really makes is that Pierce is a Nazi — a genuine Nazi,” asserts Potok. He calls Griffin’s book “a movement hagiography.”

“Here’s a guy who came out of the American Nazi Party, who talks about the ‘temporary unpleasantness’ that will follow his accession to power, and what the man is talking about is the murder of Jews, ‘race mixers,’ homosexuals, abortionists and God knows who else,” says Potok. “This is the kind of thing Griffin daintily avoids, wearing his professor’s cap.”

Griffin intentionally steers clear of terms like “neo-Nazi” and “white supremacist” in The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. “I think you get deflected by talking about labels, it’s a way to avoid the debate,” he says. “If a reader wants to apply those labels, that’s great, but I’m not going to start with them.”

One label Griffin does use is “white nationalist,” starting with the subhead of his book. While this term has been used for years among the radical right, some critics, like Vanderbilt University Law professor Carol Swain, consider the expression part of a larger repackaging of white supremacy.

“They have taken the multiculturalist argument and appropriated it to their own ends,” says Swain, author of the forthcoming book, The New White Nationalism in America. “In a world where you have Afro-American, Latino-American and Asian-American, Euro-American doesn’t sound that odd when you apply some sorts of racial reciprocity to it,” she suggests. “Basically, [white nationalists] want to celebrate group pride and self-determination in the same way that minorities are encouraged to do it.”

An African-American, Swain says several factors have made the times ripe for a new ascendancy of white nationalists. Affirmative action, a disproportionate black-on-white violent crime rate, the rise in non-white immigration and the loss of high-wage jobs due to globalization, she argues, are all legitimate grievances that are being addressed mostly by groups on the far right. These factors, she predicts, will contribute to unprecedented racial conflict in America’s future.

Members of the more sophisticated wing of the white-nationalist movement are not your average Klansmen, Swain further notes. Organizations like Jared Taylor’s New Century Foundation or the Council of Conservative Citizens may appeal to white people who would not join what they perceive to be a “hate” group. The journal American Renaissance does not engage in name-calling, nor does it espouse violence. White-nationalist literature is often written in sophisticated language by writers with advanced degrees after their names.

Swain contends that as whites lose their majority status, white nationalists will see their best chance to reach into the American mainstream — a trend that recently contributed to the rise of ultra-nationalist Jean Marie Le Pen in France. “I think if whites become a minority, they will behave more like other minority groups and see a collective interest,” Swain says. As a professor, she notes a strained climate of debate on ethnic issues, one in which whites seem reluctant to express their views on race for fear of being excoriated as “racists.”

Some of Griffin’s own ideas echo Swain’s point about multiculturalism. As Griffin argues, “You could say, if you were black, ‘I identify with my race and I care about my people and I’m going to live my life committed to their well-being and I’m going to join with others,” he says. “I don’t think it would play very well if you said, ‘I’m white, I’m proud of being white, I feel in solidarity with other white people and I’m committed to furthering the well-being of my people. I think that would be labeled as neo-Nazi or racist.”

Griffin concedes that his work on William Pierce altered his own views. “It has made me more conscious of race from a white perspective,” he says. “It has become a lens that I see the world through much more than before.” His next book project is a Studs Terkel–styled oral history of ordinary folks — white folks — for whom race plays an important part in their identity.

He does not agree, however, with any of the pejoratives that occasionally find their way into his e-mail inbox. His colleague Robert Nash, and another member of the education faculty who wished to remain anonymous, concur that Griffin is no bigot. “In an ironic sense, Griffin wants to show multicultural pluralists like myself that we aren’t really pluralists if we automatically rule out of order those views that oppose our own taken-for-granted, postmodern, liberal biases,” offers Nash.

College of Education and Social Services Dean Jill Tarule declined to speculate about Griffin or any faculty reaction to his work. She does believe that the university is deeply committed to diversity of opinion. “It’s critical that professors have the freedom to explore the issues they want to explore,” she says. “The marketplace of ideas is based on that freedom, and the freedom of debate as well. Does that mean I like the ideas that are being presented? No.”

The school has been “a wonderful place,” according to Griffin, in his quarter-century at UVM. “There’s been no pressure on me to desist or be silent. The modern version of McCarthyism does not exist at this university. What I hope a university would be is a place where there’s a full spectrum of ideas for students to encounter, and I hope that in some ways I’m contributing to that.

“No matter what you believe,” Griffin continues, “there’s somebody very articulate on the other side, and it’s not you and what you believe against the forces of darkness; it’s more complicated than that.”



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Pete Clavelle
5/11/2002 (10:12)
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The question Mr. Shaplin is are you a fan or Mr. Griffin or do you find his Nazi leanings problematic?

What was your intent in posting this particular article?
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John Calvin
5/11/2002 (14:04)
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This article provides insight into the thinking of many of the visitors on this sight.


It is a document which represents evidence supporting the hypothesis of a work excerpts of which I have posted at various times during the last few months, 'The Possessive Investment of Whitness, How White People Profit from Identity Politics' by George Lipsitz, who is a professor of anthropology at USC San Diego. e.g.
'The new patriotism arises from deeply felt contradictions in U.S. society. It arbitrates anxieties about changes in gender roles, jobs, communities, and collective identities brought on by deindustrialization and economic restructuring. Narratives of national honor take on increased importance as the practices of transnational corporations make the nation state increasingly powerless to advance the interests of its citizens. Private anxieties about isolation, loneliness and mortality fuel public spectacles of patriotic identification that promise purposeful and unselfisah connection to collective and enduring institutions. The new patriotism serves vital purposes for neoconservative economics and politics, providing psychic reparation for the damage done to individuals and groups by the operation of market principles, while at the same time promoting narcissistic desires for pleasure and power that set the stage for ever more majestic public spectacles and demonstrations of military might.

The dynamics of militaristic spectacles have a self-perpetuating character. Oedipal and preodeipal identities play upon one another: regression to primitive desires generates anxious longing for identification with powerful patriarchal authority; systematic submission to superior authority gives rise to anxious feelings of lonliness and isolation, which in turn fuels the desire for even more connection to powerful authorities. In 'The Origins of Totalitarianism', Hannah Arendt suggests that people in putatively democratic societies become ready for totalitarianism when lonliness becomes a routine feature of everyday existence. The combined effects of de-insustrialization, economic restructuring and the oppressive materialism of a market society where things have more value than people feed a sense of lonliness and isolation. Privitization prevents people from active engagement in civic society, from participation in processes that might lead to a healthy sense of self. Militarism becomes one of the few spaces in such a society where a shared sense of purpose, connection to others, and unselfish motivation have a legitimate place.

Yet while providing logical responses to the diminution of collective and individual power in an age of deindustrialization, the new patriotism encourages us to evade collective problems and responsibilities rather than to solve them. It interferes with serious public discussion of the world we have lost and the one we are building through deindustrialization and economic restructuring. It promotes male violence and female subordination, builds identification with outside authorities at the expense of personal integrity and inflames desires that can only be quenched by domination over others and a taste for gloating over the perils, pains, and slaughter of fellow-men whom one does not know, but whose destruction he desires in a blind and artificially stimulated passion of hatred and revenge.'


Mr. Griffin may have become increasingly aware of his 'white identity' in recent years, but it has been around for a long time and animates the whole social and political system to an extraordinary degree, including the administration of Mayor Peter Clavelle whose publically expressed attitudes and compliance with 'Infinite Justice Crusade', 'The War on Terrorism are as narcissistically grandiose, fascistic, regressive and destructive of the future of his City, State and the nation as any other successful American politician since the days of George Wallace.

At least Mr. Griffin is being honest. And several things he said are quite true e.g. the importance of actually knowing what guys like William Pierce say and, of course, the fitness of having a wide range of views represented in the faculty of institutions like UVM.
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John Calvin
5/11/2002 (14:17)
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with our own generation, an entirely new quantitative imagination has swept over our western world. The theory of evolution now requires us to suppose a far vaster scale of times, spaces, and numbers than our forefathers ever dreamed the cosmic process to involve. Human history grows continuously out of animal history, and goes back possibly even to the tertiary epoch. From this there has emerged insensibly a democratic view, instead of the old aristocratic view, of immortality. For our minds, though in one sense they may have grown a little cynical, in another they have been made sypathetic by the evolutionary perspective. Bone of our bone and flesh of our flesh are these half-brutish pre-historic brothers. Girdled about with the immense darkness of this mysterious universe even as we are, they were born and died, suffered and struggled. Given over to fearful crime and passion, plunged in the blackest ignorance, preyed upon by hideous and grotesque delusions, yet steadfastly serving the profoundest of ideals in their fixed faith that existence in any form is better than non-existence, they ever rescued trimphantly from the jaws of ever-imminent destruction the torch of life, which, thanks to them, now lights the world for us. How small indeed seem individual distinctions when we look back on these overwhelming numbers of human beings panting and straining under the pressure of that vital want! And how inessential in the eyes of God must be the small surplus of the individual's merit, swamped as it is in the vast ocean of the common merit of mankind, dumbly and undauntedly doing the fundamental duty and living the heroic life! We grow humble and reverent as we contemplate the prodigious spectacle. Not our differences and distinctions,--we feel--no, but our common animal essence of patience under suffering and enduring effort must be what redeems us in the Deity's sight. An immense compassion and kinship fill the heart. An immortality from which these inconceivable billions of fellow-strivers should be excluded becomes an irrational idea for us. That our superiority in personal refinement or in religious creed should constitute a difference between ourselves and our messmates at life's banquet, fit to entail such a consequential difference of destiny as eternal life for us, and for them torment hereafter, or death with the beasts that perish, is a notion too absurd to be considered serious. Nay, more, the very beasts themselves--the wild ones at any rate--are leading the heroic life at all times. And a modern mind, expanded as some minds are by cosmic emotion, by the great evolutionist vision of universal continuity, hesitates to draw the line even at man. If any creature lives forever, why not all?--why not the patient brutes? So that a faith in immortality, if we are to indulge it, demands of us nowadays a scale of representation so stupendous that our imagination faints before it, and our personal feelings refuse to rise up and face the task. The supposition we are swept along to is too vast, and, rather than face the conclusion, we abandon the premise from which it starts. We give up our own immortality sooner than believe that all the hosts of Hottentots and Australians that have been, and shall ever be, should share it with us in secula seculorum. Life is a good thing on a reasonably copious scale; but the very heavens themselves, and the cosmic times and spaces, would stand aghast, we think, at the notion of preseving eternally such and ever-swelling plethora and glut of it.

Having myself, as a recipient of modern scientific culture, gone through a subjective experience like this, I feel sure that it must also have been the experience of many, perhaps of most, of you who listen to my words. But I have also come to see that it harbors a tremendous fallacy; and, since the noting of the fallacy has set my own mind free again, I have felt that one service I might render to my listeners tonight would be to point out where it lies.

It is the most obvious fallacy in the world, and the only wonder is that all the world should not see through it. It is the result of nothing bit an invincible blindness from which we suffer, an insensibility to the significance of alien lives, and a conceit that would project our own incapacity into the vast cosmos, and measure the wants of the Absolute by our own puny needs. Our christian ancestors dealt with the problem more easily than we do. We, indeed, lack sympathy; but they had a positive antipathy for these alien human creatures, and they naively supposed the Deity to have antipathy, too. Being, as they were, `heathen,' our forefathers felt a certain sort of joy in thinking that their Creator made them as so much mere fuel for the fires of hell. Our cutlure has humanized us beyond that point, but we cannot yet conceive them as our comrades in the fields of heaven. We have, as the phrase goes, no use for them, and it oppresses us to think of their survival. Take, for instance, all the Chinamen. Which of you here, my friends, sees any fitness in their eternal perpetuation unreduced in numbers? Surely not one of you. At most, you might deem it well to keep a few chosen specimens alive to represent an interesting and peculiar variety of humanity; but as for the rest, what comes in such surpassing numbers, and what you can only imagine in this abstract summary collective manner, must be something of which the units, you are sure, can have on individual preciousness. God himself, you think, can have no use for them. An immortality of every seperate specimen must be to him and to the universe as indigestible a load to carry as it is to you. So, engulfing the whole subject in a sort of mental gidiness and nausea, you drift along, first doubting that the mass can be immortal, then losing all assurance in the immortality of your own particular person, precious as you all the while feel and realize the latter to be. This, I am sure, is the attitude of mind of some of you before me.

But is not such an attitude due to the veriest lack and dearth of your imagination? You take these swarms of alien kinsmen as they are for you: an external picture painted on your retina, representing a crowd oppressive by its vastness and confusion. As they are for you, so you think they positively and absolutely are. I feel no call for them, you say; therefore there is no call for them. but all the while, beyond this externality which is your way of realizing them, they realize themselves with the acutest internality, with the most violent thrills of life. 'Tis you who are dead, stone-dead and blind and senseless, in your way of looking on. You open your eyes upon a scene of which you miss the whole significance. Each of these grotesque or even repulsive aliens is animated by an inner joy of living as hot or hotter than that which you feel beating in your private breast. The sun rises and beauty beams to light his path. To miss the inner joy of him, as Stevenson says, is to miss the whole of him.*10* Not a being of the countless throng is there whose continued life is not called for, and called for intensely, by the consciousness that animates the being's form. That you neither realize nor understand nor call for it, is an absolutely irrelevant circumstance. That you have a saturation-point of interest tells us nothing of the interests that absolutely are. The Universe, with every living entity which her resources create, creates at the same time a call for that entity, and an appitite for its continuance,--creates it, if nowhere else, at least within the heart of the entity itself. It is absurd to suppose, simply because our private power of sympathetic vibration with other lives gives out so soon, that in the heart of infinite being itself there can be such a thing as plethora, or glut, or supersaturation. It is not as if there were a bounded room where the minds in possession had to move up or make place and crowd together to accommodate new occupants. Each new mind brings its own edition of the universe of space along with it, its own room to inhabit; and these spaces never crowd each other,--the space of my imagination, for example, in no way inteferes with yours. The amount of possible consciousness seems to be governed by no law analogous to that of the so-called conservation of energy in the material world. When one man wakes up, or one is born, another does not have to go to sleep, or die, in order to keep the consciousness of the universe a constant quantity. Professor Wundt, in fact, in his `System of Philosophy,' has formulated a law of the universe which he calls the law of increase of spiritual energy, and which he expressly opposes to the law of conservation of energy in physical things.*11* There seems to be no formal limit to the positive increase of being in spiritual respects; and since the spiritual being, whenever it comes; affirms itself, expands and craves continuance, we may justly and literally say, regardless of the defects of our own private sympathy, that the supply of individual life in the universe can never possibly, however immeasurable it may become, exceed the demand. The demand for that supply is there the moment the supply itself comes into being, for the beings supplied demand their own continuance...

William James

http://www.emory.edu/EDUCATION/mfp/jimmortal.html


reply by
pube
5/11/2002 (15:48)
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You should not try to sound so intellectual, because it doesn't suite you.

What a waffling, dull and uninteresting load of gumph all that is.

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John Calvin
5/11/2002 (17:01)
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'Before attempting to estimate the qualities in our society that make intellect unpopular, it seems necessary to say something about what intellect is usually understood to be...Anyone who scans popular American writing with this interest in mind will be struck by the manifest difference between the idea of intellect and the idea of intelligence...Although the difference between the qualities of intelligence and intellect is more often assumed than defined, the context of popular useage makes it possible to extract the nub of the distinction, which seems to be almost universally understood:

Intelligence is an excellence of the mind that is employed within a fairly narrow, immediate and predictable range; it is maniplulative, adjustive, unfailingly practical quality-oner of the most eminent and endearing of the animal virtues. Intelligence works within the framework of limited but clearly stated goals, and may be quick to shear away questions of thought that do not seem to help in reaching them. Finally, it is of such universal use that it can daily be seen at work and admired alike by simple or complex minds,

Intellect, on the other hand, is the critical, creative , and contemplative side of the mind. Whereas intelligence seeks to grasp, manipulate, re-order, adjust, intellect ponders, wonders, theorizes, criticizes, imagines. Intelligence will seize the immediate meaning in a situation and evaluate it. Intellect evaluates evaluations, and looks for the meanings of situations as a whole. Intelligence can be praised as a quality in animals; intellect, being a unique manifestation of human dignity, is both praised and assailed as a quality in men....This distinction may seem excessively abstract, but it is frequently illustrated in America culture...'

Richard Hofstadter; 'Anti-intellectualism in American Life' Chapter Two, 'On the Unpopularity of the intellect'.
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Observer
5/11/2002 (17:29)
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Thanks for sharing John. You are a very bright person and clearly wonderfully well read.

Have you read any of David Wulff's scholarly work?

Do you teach?
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John Calvin
5/11/2002 (19:06)
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Thanks observer. I havn't read David Wulff's works but he seems to work in a similiar vein to William James.

I havn't done much teaching though I was trained somewhat in the profession and have a family background there.
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Observer
5/11/2002 (24:51)
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A terrific graduate level review of James's work can be found in Wulff, D. M. (1991). Psychology of Religion: Classic and Contemporary Views. New York: John Wiley & Sons.

You have clearly read the original texts.

John, what do you think will happen in Israel/Palestine?

I am terribly worried that the extremists in both camps, as well as parties in Iran and Iraq will pull the entire region into a war with dire global consequences. What's your prediction and/or prescription for avoiding that?

Shalom.