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Topic: The Führer phropesizes

topic by Scharhorst 5/25/2002 (14:36)

reply top Writing in 1923/24, a few years after the Balfour Declaration, Hitler muses on the future state of Israel: If the Jews should ever succeed in setting up their Israel in the state of Palestine, he prophesies, 'most of them will not go to live there.' No, they will continue in their criminal actions elsewhere, and establish the new homeland as a refuge for all the shady elements forced to flee after their naïve and overweening host peoples have finally rumbled what they are up to. Pursued by the authorities, predicts Hitler in Mein Kampf, these criminal elements will use Israel only as a safe haven, a habitat of convenience, from which they cannot be extradited, The only time the Jews will see fit to live there, will be to increase their numbers as to push their surrounding host's further aside.

reply by Sara 5/25/2002 (15:20)

reply top Evil

reply by Wisso 5/25/2002 (16:45)

reply top yep..i red that somehwere in the past...that is so true btw!

reply by TheAZCowBoy 5/25/2002 (18:02)

reply top De Fuherer vas not de fool he vas put up to be. 'Burn Juden Burn,' was not racism, it was the reality of life! TAC,

reply by carol 5/25/2002 (24:13)

reply top Even the vilest of what the jews have done or do...we are all capable of that vileness...why the jews get picked on for those qualities more than the rest of us...is a mystery to me. Is it because they hold themselves up to a higher moral standard than the rest of us and then when they fail to live up to it....the contrast hits the rest of us like a ton of bricks? They have to die for it?....they are the world's scapegoats? I'm sick of you AZ...sick of your always talking about killing the jews. Killing anything. You don't have a very high moral standard for yourself. A one track mind....and what is in your subconscious....I know, its been stated before...but its true....everything nasty you see out there that you'd like to see dead....its in you. Don't they call that self-hatred. Isn't that what you AZs accuse the jews of. Its so easy to hate the jews....so easy. I have to fight the pull in myself. Guys like you for centuries have made a blueprint for future generations. Why don't you take the hard road....why not take a stance against all injustice...all greed, all brutality...all wars..all selfishness...There's plenty of it in the arab world without even considering the jews...the wealth of a few at the expense of the many. Theres plenty out there of people's fighting amongst themselves for the wrong reasons...trampling on the rights of less fortunate...why pick on the jews...why not all of them. If the jews disappeared from the face of the earth...who would be next...there will always be someone next...its the nature of the beast...take the hard road...resolve human nature and its vileness within yourself. One AZ at a time. One AZ at a time. One AZ at a time.

reply by Wisso 5/25/2002 (24:40)

reply top well thats cos in almost every major war...jews r always behind it...jews r getting us back to middle age were ppl did horrible things in the name of god... exacly what did the jews do..>Stole a country in the name of god...who supposedly promised this land that they never had...i mean what kind of lame ass excuse was that to steal some1 s land...im pretty sure if saddam said the same thing b4 he invaded koweit..it wouldve been a scandal!!!... they Destroy holy sites...(al aqsa and church of nativity) they r not ppl but evil criminals with 1 goal...DOminate the world (wich they have already achieved..) And carol why r u there protecting them for fucks sake..Open ur god dman eyes damnit....i mean look at wqhat the fucking jews have done over tha past years ... The first created TOTAL chaos in EUROP destroying almost every part of it..Then moved to the mid east..(center of the world...)...and created total chaos there..... they manipulate goverments...they manipulate media to make us look bad and make them look good..>They FUCKED my country up i was there to see it with my own eyes...they bomb MY country (lebanon) s infrastructure every beggining of the summer to scare tourists away (one of lebanon s biggest industry)....they r STILL occupiing OUR land and violating our AIR SPACE....EVERY DAY!! .... and thats NOTHING to what palestinians r gowing thre EVERYDAY!!...they r UNDER SIEGE...they get killed EVERYDAY....hehe Just today i saw news on bottom of the screen that IDF killed 2 Palestinians..THE FREAKING media didnt even took 2 minutsa of their time to EVEN talk about it..but just a couple of days ago they spent 15 minuts talking bout a suicide bomb that DIDNT EVEN kill ANYONE... i mena HOW DARE u CAROL to even come in here and take the jew side.... WE ARABS r NOT the FUCKING OCCUPIERS...we r the OCCUPIED...we r not the MANIPULERS...WE R THE MANIPULATED...WE ARABS r not the ones who can destroy earth 50 times.....ISRAEL IS with it s NUCLEAR arsenal... IF u r too STUPID self centerd and DUMB to understand THAt ....WE ARABS r FIGHTING for a JUST CAUS..>We r FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM...For our DIGNITY...OUR RIGHT to LIVE....

reply by ...Justice For ALL... 5/26/2002 (4:11)

reply top i'M NOT ARAB OR MUSLIM & I AGREE WITH YOU 100 % ... Join the Boycott of Israel... See.. boycottisraeligoods.org/index ... and.. matzspun.com

reply by Salem 5/26/2002 (7:47)

reply top Carol, Read 'The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion'. Read The 'Talmud'. Search this site: http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html

reply by Sara 5/26/2002 (8:02)

reply top One Can'nt But Hate What Is 'Hateful'. But I do'nt resolve to violance enless I was driven to it. Hate is as natural as love. But one sh'd know how to deal with hate more carefully than with love. Unless one is ' Emotionally Constipated'... Saying I don't hate that which is hateful..

reply by carol 5/26/2002 (8:17)

reply top I'm not protecting them..wisso..what they are doing is too horrible to look at too closely. Thats why I try to look at the whole history of wars and what they do to people. If I were younger they would probably put me in jail to keep me quiet. If you reread what I wrote maybe you'll see that I'm fighting desperately to not hate the jews for what they are doing.ButI also get upset after too much 'lets kill them all, lets put them in the ovens'. The difference between them and us...if there is an us on this board...gets blurry...maybe I don't have a strong enough mind to let it pass by me or put it in its proper perspective...but I have limitations...I am a women. I tend to feel more than I think.What I'm saying is that what happens on this board sometimes doesn't seem any different to me than a war going on on the other side of the world. Maybe its time for me to take another break from this board.

reply by carol 5/26/2002 (8:23)

reply top And salem...that url doesn't take me anywhere. I'll try again later.

reply by TheAZCowBoy 5/26/2002 (12:26)

reply top Re: Carol's diatribe-'Even the vilest of what the jews have done or do...we are all capable of that vileness...why the jews get picked on for those qualities more than the rest of us...is a mystery to me. Is it because they hold themselves up to a higher moral standard than the rest of us.' TAC: Yes dearie--and if anyone doubts your words just take another look at the massacres, house demolitions, human shields and vandalism committed by the IDF thugs at Jenin, Ramallah and Rafuh, huh baby? 'and then when they fail to live up to it....the contrast hits the rest of us like a ton of bricks?' TAC: Well, that's because when you put yourself high up on the 'self rightous' pedestal--well, the world expects you to live up to your lies, right? Like for example: Israel--'the light unto the nations'--Huh? the biggest lie to date by the murderous Zionist parasites! 'They have to die for it?....they are the world's scapegoats?' TAC: 'You live by the sword--you die by the sword---or like my Papi used to say: 'They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind,' simple as that Carol baby!' I'm sick of you AZ...sick of your always talking about killing the Jews. TAC: 280 Palestinian children uder the age of 17 ( 22 under the age of 8, including 9 infants ) murdered by the IDF in this latest Intifada, this tell you anything about who the 'real' murderers are Carol Dearie? I guess you've never had your home demolished as you scrambled out one of the window's, or had your precious water shut off and rerouted to the 'illegal' Jewish Settlement that is going up in your families north forty, huh Carol? To be continued when Carol recovers her speech.... TheAZCowBoy, wishing death on the Zionist parasites and the murderous thugs of the IDF, KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOM!

reply by Wisso 5/26/2002 (15:32)

reply top Carol....u ll understand me better the day YOU will live under their occupation... i was there when they invaded my country...Hell..i was even on the streets playing soccer with friends near an israeli chekpoint i was exacly 4-5 years old)...u know what they did carol..they started shooting near us on the floor...just to scare us away!!! and then i could see them laugh about it... u call this humans???....what kind of fucking human would do that...!!! also...eveyr summer when i go to lebanon..i see them israeli planes flying over MY country..spying on us...violating UN resolution and LEbanees air space...they then sonic boom making the house shake and brake some windows... but u dont har that on tv...all u hear is Hezbollah 'terrorist' attack israeli base in SOUTHERN LEBANON...... My best friend lives in the shebaa farms...his parents got their home destroyed ...he never went to shebaa WHY??...wanna know why...cos those bastards r occupiing it.... Do u start feeling what im feeling carol?? While those fucking jews live in 'peace in tel aviv...we arabs r suffering ...Why should we suffer and they dont... Thats why im 100% WITH suice bombing......Why should we live in terror..and not them.... i say..If we cant live peacfully...WHy should they... i have had enough of those jews...all i saw from them is destruction, opression, invasion, and occupation.....thats why im so radical in my toughts...thats why i hate them so much..IM TIRED of them!!

reply by carol 5/26/2002 (17:19)

reply top Wisso...this is a very sad memory. I can understand your anger. You're protecting all the other 4 and 5 years still going through this. I love you, wisso..I wish I could wipe out that experience for you and others...if you ever need a place to stay...in minneapolis....with your girlfriend, your wife, your family...you stop by...you're welcome in my home.

reply by Jewish Canadien 5/26/2002 (18:27)

reply top Carol - I have read many of the posts in MER's forum and it is a rather sad commentary on contemporary discourse of these very important issues. Your posts seem to have more genuine concern for the lives of all of the people in the region than practically all of the others. I am not going to even attempt to address the litany of accusations that the different discussants have made here, as they are clear distortions of reality and anything I say is likely to be distorted, disputed, and not listened to with an open and fair mind. I urge you, however, to not accept anything that is posited here without doing your own research on websites that are not biased in either direction (be aware that there is a canon of false, anti-semitic propoganda on the web). Your question regarding anti-semitism is an important and profound one. One not likely to be addressed seriously by many in this forum. I recommend reading some of the articles on http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo.html for starters. But don't stop there. This is only to give you an overview. I understand your struggle to resist anti-semitism. It is a very seductive ideology and way of being, but as you pointed out it is a false ideology. Everyone loves to blame someone or some group for all the problems we face. In Malaysia it is the Chinese immigrants, in Turkey it was the Armenians, in Iran the Bahai, and in Europe it was the Jews. The numerous genocidal murders against all these groups, particularly the Armenians and the Jews shows how dangerous this form of scapegoating can be. Israeli policy has been problematic and some of its military responses have been brutal and terribly painful to those recipients of it, but seen in the actual context of what is occuring in the region and what it is faced with it is difficult to demonize Israel as being worse than any other country. In fact, it is easy to rationalize what they are doing in response to the intentions of intolerant Muslim extremists. You are brave to propose an alternative perspective to those in this forum. It is only too easy to join a hate filled mob and gang up on another person. Thank you for reading this.

reply by TheAZCowBoy 5/27/2002 (12:12)

reply top Re: Canadian Jew--'intolerant Muslim extremists.' Dear Sir, would you explain the difference between a murderous IDF Jewish thug that taunts a Palestinian boy from 1,500 meters away and then shoots him through the head with a US supplied sniperscoped M-16 ( ever see a kid throw a stone 1,500 meters--I haven't! ) and a Muslim extremist? How 'bout an IDF Apache helicopter gunship pilot tht fires a hellfire antitank missile at an auto carrying a 'possible' Palestinian 'terrorist?' Recently, a 2 year old child was decapitated by such a hellfire missile that missed the intended victim of the attack. Did the IDF apologize and pay reparations so the family could bury their precious little infant son--what is your guess? So you see, you Jews have been indearing yourselves in the many societies that you have been kicked out of and always you ask---why do they hate Jews???? GUESS! TheAZCowBoy,

reply by Salem to Carol 5/28/2002 (16:19)

reply top Carol, Try reading the following url of a non-talmudic anti-zionist brilliant jew: http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine.html