Truth about the USS Liberty - What they don't tell you
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Donald from the USA
6/30/2002 (10:36)
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The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was a grievous error, largely attributable to the fact that it occurred in the midst of the confusion of a full-scale war in 1967. Ten official United States investigations and three official Israeli inquiries have all conclusively established the attack was a tragic mistake.

On June 8, 1967, the fourth day of the Six-Day War, the Israeli high command received reports that Israeli troops in El Arish were being fired upon from the sea, presumably by an Egyptian vessel as they had a day before. The United States had announced that it had no Naval forces within hundreds of miles of the battle front on the floor of the United Nations a few days earlier; however, the USS Liberty, an American intelligence ship assigned to monitor the fighting, arrived in the area, 14 miles off the Sinai coast, as result of a series of United States communication failures, whereby messages directing the ship not to approach within 100 miles were not received by the Liberty. The Israelis mistakenly thought this was the ship doing the shelling and war planes and torpedo boats attacked, killing 34 members of the Liberty's crew and wounding 171.

Numerous mistakes were made by both the United States and Israel. For example, the Liberty was first reported — incorrectly, as it turned out (it was later recalculated to be 28 knots) —to be cruising at 30 knots. Under Israeli (and U.S.) naval doctrine at the time, a ship proceeding at that speed was presumed to be a warship. The day fighting began, Israel had asked that American ships be removed from its coast or that it be notified of the precise location of U.S. vessels.1 The Sixth Fleet was moved because President Johnson feared being drawn into a confrontation with the Soviet Union. He also ordered that no aircraft be sent near Sinai.

According to Israel's Chief of Staff, Yitzhak Rabin's memoirs, there were standing orders to attack any unidentified vessel near the shore.2 The sea was calm and the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry found that the flag was very likely drooped and not discernible; moreover, members of the crew, including the Captain, Commander William McGonagle, testified that the flag was knocked down after the first or second assault.

A CIA report on the incident issued June 13, 1967, also found that an overzealous pilot could mistake the Liberty for an Egyptian ship, the El Quseir. After the air raid, Israeli torpedo boats identified the Liberty as an Egyptian naval vessel. When the Liberty began shooting at the Israelis, they responded with the torpedo attack, which killed 28 of the sailors.

The argument that the attack was a tragic mistake is further reinforced by a new biography of Yitzhak Rabin (Dan Kurzman, Soldier of Peace: The Life of Yitzhak Rabin. NY: HarperCollins, 1998), who was Israel's Chief of Staff during the war, which says the Israelis initially were terrified that they had attacked a Soviet ship and might have provoked the Soviets to join the fighting. The Israelis were relieved when they learned it was an American ship, though Rabin remained concerned the mistake might jeopardize American support for Israel.3

Once the Israelis were sure what had happened, they reported the incident to the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv and offered to provide a helicopter for the Americans to fly out to the ship and any help they required to evacuate the injured and salvage the ship. The offer was accepted and a U.S. naval attaché was flown to the Liberty.

Many of the survivors of the Liberty remain bitter, and are convinced the attack was deliberate as they make clear on their web site (http://www.ussliberty.com/). In 1991, columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak trumpeted their discovery of an American who said he had been in the Israeli war room when the decision was made to knowingly attack the American ship.4 In fact, that individual, Seth Mintz, wrote a letter to the Washington Post on November 9, 1991, in which he said he was misquoted by Evans and Novak and that the attack, was, in fact, a 'case of mistaken identity.' Moreover, the man who Mintz originally said had been with him, a Gen. Benni Matti, does not exist. Also, contrary to claims that an Israeli pilot identified the ship as American on a radio tape, no one has ever produced this tape. In fact, the only tape in existence is the official Israeli Air Force tape, which clearly established that no such identification of the ship was made by the Israeli pilots prior to the attack. It also indicates that once the pilots became concerned about the identity of the ship, by virtue of reading its hull number, they terminated the attack. The tapes do not contain any statement suggesting the pilots saw a U.S. flag before the attack.5

None of Israel's accusers has been able to explain adequately why Israel would have deliberately attacked an American ship at a time when the United States was Israel's only friend and supporter in the world. Confusion in a long line of communications, which occurred in a tense atmosphere on both the American and Israeli sides (five messages from the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the ship to remain at least 25 miles &151; the last four said 100 miles &151; off the Egyptian coast arrived after the attack was over) is a more probable explanation.

Accidents caused by “friendly fire” are common in wartime. In 1988, the U.S. Navy mistakenly downed an Iranian passenger plane, killing 290 civilians. During the Gulf War, 35 of the 148 Americans who died in battle were killed by “friendly fire.” In April 1994, two U.S. Black Hawk helicpoters with large U.S. flags painted on each side were shot down by U.S. Air Force F-15s on a clear day in the “no fly” zone of Iraq, killing 26 people. In fact, the day before the Liberty was attacked, Israeli pilots accidentally bombed one of their own armored columns south of Jenin on the West Bank.6

Retired Admiral, Shlomo Erell, who was Chief of the Navy in Israel in June 1967, told the Associated Press (June 5, 1977): “No one would ever have dreamt that an American ship would be there. Even the United States didn't know where its ship was. We were advised by the proper authorities that there was no American ship within 100 miles.”

Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara told Congress on July 26, 1967: “It was the conclusion of the investigatory body, headed by an admiral of the Navy in whom we have great confidence, that the attack was not intentional.”

In 1987, McNamara repeated his belief that the attack was a mistake, telling a caller on the “Larry King Show” that he had seen nothing in the 20 years since to change his mind that there had been no “cover­up.”7

Israel apologized for the tragedy and paid nearly $13 million in humanitarian reparations to the United States and to the families of the victims in amounts established by the U.S. State Department. The matter was officially closed between the two government by an exchange of diplomatic notes on December 17, 1987.






Given the US attack on Canadian Soldiers in Afghanistan - well, what can you say?
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TheAZCowBoy
6/30/2002 (11:22)
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Hey Donald, You Zionist and pro-Israel apologist low lives never give up do you?

The USS Liberty was attacked in bright day light and flying the colors!

The ship radioed the aircraft on 5 channels and advised them that they were American's.

Like the murder of little 12 year old Palestinian boy Mohammed Al-Dura by the IDF low lives, September 1999--and all the twisting and turning they did to blame the Palestinian's for murdering their own child--it was all a Jewish lie and it took the photog that took the pics testamony to prove the IDF'er to be the liars that they were that day--and each time they murder a Palestinian and with the greatest of confidence report to the American people that the Play was arming a bomb or transporting munitions.

It is indeed sad that the US Jewish infested media passes on there lies and worst of all is that pro-Israel fools like you 'eat it all up!'

TheAZCowBoy,

PS: This last week the IDF thugs and murderers killed 12 children in cold blood, ranging from age 16 down to age 5, so what lies do you have to spawn about this?
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...SIGN THE PETITION 4 A HEARING
6/30/2002 (18:25)
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The attack on the USS Liberty was COVERED-UP !! Because of zIONIST pressure.... There NEVER was a hearing into the matter !!... Please sign the petition to get hearing started by Congress !!... Victor Ostrovsky, a defector from the IDF says that the Israelis deliberately attacked the Liberty and planned to sink & KILL ALL Americans onboard !!!! .... Listen to his interviews with survivors of the Liberty... at... http://www.spytalk.netaudio.html ... .... ... Sign the petition at... http://www.ussliberty.org ... .... Have ALL your friends & relatives sign it also ....
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.. $ 13 MILLION Apology Farce..
6/30/2002 (18:34)
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The suppossed compensation for the attack onthe USS Liberty WAS A JOKE !!! ... Congress just INCREASED Aid to Israel an ADDITIONAL $ 15 MILLION the following budgetary cycle.... What a joke !!! .... http://www.rense.com/general10/unt.htm ... http://www.salon.com/books/features/2001/04/25/liberty/ ..And... http://www.abbc.com/islam/english/toread/libertybook.htm
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ADAM
6/30/2002 (18:56)
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YES, THE ATTACK ON USS LIBERTY WAS A GREAT ERROR, & WAS PROVEN BY MANY MILITARY EXPERTS!
TALKING MORE ABOUT THAT INCIDENT IS A MERE WASTE OF TIME.
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Adam?
6/30/2002 (19:59)
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You're a mere waste of time...
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None
7/1/2002 (2:04)
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To the Jewish writers on this forum:

Why do you never give us a good rationalization for the sinking of the USS Liberty off the coast of Israel, and the strafing of our men in life rafts.

Why do you never respond about the influx of Mossad agents in the United States who have dual citizenship?

All you do is either submit porn on this site or spew forth hateful vitriol toward the Palestinians and any others who would defend their right to be rid of Israel's dehumanizing treatment of them for thirty-five years.

You try to justify the use of American bulldozers to level their houses so that you can go on building your settlements.

You have no compunction whatever about literally herding the Palestinian refugees out of the area down the roads to oblivion,

And, ON AND ON.

Sooner or later the Black and White American Gentiles are going to rise up against you in this country, because people are beginning to understand how you have taken over the United States to do your bidding on behalf of Israel.
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ADAM
7/1/2002 (22:50)
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NONE, WHICH YOU ARE!....
ISRAEL HAS TENS OF MILLIONS OF GOOD CHRISTIANS WHO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE JEWISH STATE.
DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH, MISTER. YOU ARE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THE HUGE SUPPORT IN WHICH ISRAEL DOES ENJOY! GO & HAVE LIFE!!!!