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real watcher
7/4/2002 (18:06)
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Note the big lie that Israel needs nuclear weapons to deter a possible Arab nuclear attack. Nothing could be further from the truth. The real reason Israel is so worried about Moslem nuclear weapons is that these would serve as deterrent to Israeli nuclear blackmail.

The Israelis may as arrogant as they want, but if they should ever use nuclear weapons first, an outraged world may finish what Hitler started.



Sharon Threatens
Global Nuclear War

Thursday, July 04 2002 @ 04:54 PM GMT

By Jeffrey Steinberg

If there is one nation on this planet that deserves to be
described and dealt with as a rogue state, armed with
weapons of mass destruction and intent on using them,
it is Israel, under the terror reign of war criminal Ariel
Sharon.

If this was a matter of assertion or conjecture in the
past, statements coming out of top Israeli officials in the
past days have eliminated any cause for hesitation.

On June 26, the Israeli newspaper of record, Ha'aretz,
cited two top Israeli space scientists, who declared that
Israel now has the capacity to fire missiles at targets
anywhere on earth.

Prof. Moshe Gelman, head of the Asher Institute at
Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, boasted to
Ha'aretz that 'From the moment the State of Israel has
the capability to launch a satellite into orbit around the
earth at a height of hundreds of kilometers, it
established [its] capability to launch, by means of a
missile, a payload to any location on the face of the
earth.'

Dr. Gelman's words were seconded by Avi Har-Even, the
director-general of the Israeli Space Agency (ISA), which
recently launched the Ofek 5 satellite, who told
Ha'aretz's Amnon Barzilai that the Ofek 5 launch had two
strategic objectives: providing Israel with an
independent spy satellite capability to monitor military
activities in targeted countries throughout the entire
Near East. 'The second involves Israel's launch
capabilities.'

Democratic Party Presidential candidate Lyndon
LaRouche reacted strongly to the Israeli announcement
about an ICBM capability. He characterized it as a direct
threat by Ariel Sharon against any nation that attempts
to interfere with Israel's mad drive for its 'Greater
Israel' permanent annexation of the West Bank and
Gaza and the mass expulsion of the 3.5 million
Palestinians living in those territories.

'Israel is threatening global thermonuclear war,'
LaRouche warned, and this is unacceptable. He called
upon the international community to immediately make
the entire Mideast a 'denuclearized zone,' by forcing
Israel to dismantle its nuclear weapons arsenal.

LaRouche characterized the announcement of the Israeli
ICBM capability as a 'phase-change' in a global strategic
situation, already driven to the brink of war by the
onrushing financial collapse and the June 25 speech by
President George W. Bush, which gave Sharon a defacto
American 'green light' to take any action against the
Palestinians which he deems necessary.

NATO Officially Warned

The Israeli intent to use nuclear weapons was a topic of,
at minimum, implicit discussion, at a June 26 Brussels
behind-closed-doors meeting of NATO's North Atlantic
Council, which was addressed by the current head of the
Israeli Mossad, Ephraim Halevy. According to the June 27
Ha'aretz, Halevy reported to the NATO officials that
Mossad is convinced that Iran is developing intermediate
and long range missiles, and 'weapons-grade nuclear
capabilities,' as well as VX gas and biological weapons.

As Ha'aretz's Amir Oren reported, Halevy asserted that
'Israel cannot spare any effort to foil, prevent or delay
the attainment of weapons of mass destruction by
countries like Iran, Iraq, Syria and Libya.'

Pushing A New Regional War

According to Israeli military historian Martin Van Creveld,
who wrote that 'Sharon's Plan Is to Drive Palestinians
Across the Jordan,' the intent of the present Israeli
government is to seize upon either a US military attack
on Iraq, aimed at overthrowing Saddam Hussein, or a
serious attack inside Israel to launch a 'mass transfer'
of more than two million Palestinians living in the West
Bank and Gaza, across the river into Jordan.

'Should such circumstances arise,' Van Creveld wrote in
the April 28, 2002 issue of Conrad Black's Sunday
Telegraph, 'then Israel would mobilise with lightening
speed--even now, much of its male population is on
standby.'

He spelled out a precise order of battle for the 'mass
transfer,' although he wrote of his own personal
opposition to the Sharon scheme: 'First, the country's
three ultra-modern submarines would take up firing
positions out at sea. Borders would be closed, a news
blackout imposed, and all foreign journalists rounded up
and confined to a hotel as guests of the Government.'

He continued, 'A force of 12 divisions, 11 of them
armoured, plus various territorial units suitable for
occupation duties, would be deployed: five against
Egypt, three against Syria, and one opposite Lebanon.
This would leave three to face east as well as enough
forces to put a tank inside every Arab-Israeli village just
in case their populations get any funny ideas.

'The expulsion of the Palestinians would require only a
few brigades. They would not drag people out of their
houses but use heavy artillery to drive them out; the
damage caused to Jenin would look like a pinprick in
comparison.'

Van Creveld estimated that none of the Arab states
would respond militarily to the Israeli move, adding,
'Should Saddam be mad enough to resort to weapons
of mass destruction, then Israel's response would be so
`awesome and terrible' (as Yitzhak Shamir, the former
prime minister once said) as to defy the imagination.'
There is no question that this was a direct reference to
an Israeli use of nuclear weapons against Iraq.

He added, 'Israeli military experts estimate that such a
war could be over in just eight days.'

Van Creveld concluded that only the United States could
stop such an Israeli doomsday scenario from playing out,
and right now, chances are slim to nil that America will
step in to stop Israel, which is seen by Bush as a major
ally in the 'war on terrorism.' After Bush's June 25
speech, copies of Van Creveld's article were taken from
the files and studied, intensively, by many Arab military
and intelligence commanders, according to a
well-informed Egyptian source.

Deadly Arsenal

The scale of the Israeli nuclear weapons program is
vast, and has now been qualitatively transformed, by
Israel's acquisition of three German-made diesel
powered submarines, which, according to a recent study
by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, are
armed with nuclear warheads on Cruise missiles.
Carnegie published a report early in June 2002, detailing
the Israeli nuclear weapons program. That booklength
report on global nuclear weapons proliferation, Deadly
Arsenals--Tracking Weapons of Mass Destruction,
included an entire chapter on Israel's nuclear, chemical
and biological weapons program.

The authors wrote, 'Probably the most important
nuclear-related development in Israel is the formation of
its sea-based nuclear arm. By July 2000 Israel completed
taking delivery of all three of the Dolphin-class
submarines it had ordered at the
Thyssen-Nordseewerke shipyard in Kiel, Germany. In
doing so, it is widely believed, Israel moved significantly
toward acquiring a survivable second-strike nuclear
capability. All indications are that Israel is on the way to
finalizing a restructuring of its nuclear forces into a triad,
like the United States.

'Since the early 1980s (and probably even earlier) the
Israeli navy (jointly with other governmental agencies)
lobbied hard for the notion that Israel should build a
small fleet of modern diesel submarines for `strategic
purposes,' an Israeli euphemism for a sea-launched
nuclear capability... It is also believed (but not
confirmed) that the most sensitive aspect of the project,
the cruise-missile technology that renders the diesel
submarines nuclear-capable launching platforms, was
developed and built in Israel...

According to one report in the London Sunday Times, by
early 2000 Israel had carried out the first launching tests
of its cruise missiles.'

The Carnegie study concluded, 'A fleet of three
submarines is believed to be the minimum that Israel
needs to have a deployment at sea of one
nuclear-armed submarine at all times.'

The fact that Israel has achieved a deployable nuclear
triad was advertised in a June 15 report in the
Washington Post, under the headline, 'Israel Has
Submarine-Based Atomic Arms Capability.'Arab News



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reply by
ADAM
7/4/2002 (23:43)
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LIES & MORE LIES ABOUT ISRAEL'S INTENTIONS IN USING THEIR ATOMIC WEAPONS.
ISRAEL'S HIGH TECH MISSILES ARE AS ACCURATE AS THE U.S. MADE MISSILES, THEREFORE, ISRAEL CAN DESTROY ANY ENEMY TARGET THAT IS MENT TO HARM ISRAELI CIVILIANS!
BUT ISRAEL WILL NOT BE THE ONE USING IT'S ATOMIC TIPS UNLESS THE ENEMY STRIKES FIRST.
MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT IF THE ENEMY FIRES ANY SORT OF MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPONS ON ISRAEL, THAT NATION WILL HAVE TO START IT'S NEW CIVILIZATION FROM STEP # ONE!
P.S. DID I SEE THE NAME LAROUCHE! END OF DISCUSSION....
reply by
real watcher
7/5/2002 (7:46)
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More nonsense from Adam. The Israelis know their current conventional superiority will not last long. Hence their nuclear arsenal which they hope to use to for nuclear blackmail should they ever start to lose a future conventional military conflict. Given the 400 Israeli nuclear weapons a handful of Arab nukes could serve only as a deterent to Israel first use or threatened first use.

BTW Israel did threaten to use nuclear weapons back in 1973 when they were losing for a few days on the battlefield.

To put it bluntly the Arabs and Moslems need mass destruction weapons of all types to serve as a deterrent to a real or threatened Israel first strike in the event of the Zionist state coming out second best in a future conventional military conflict.

And not just Israel threats. The US and Britain now also are threatening to use nuclear weapons first.




reply by
TheAZCowBoy
7/5/2002 (13:59)
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As a military man I see the LIKUDNIK's as a bunch of scared rabbits.

There is much dessension within Israeli Jews, the people are fed up with this eternal war and the almost daily bombings and suicide attacks.

They know the world hates them--and with good cause--and the US is slowly getting fed up with the LIKUDNIK thugs and their arrogance ( remember Sharon giving DIM BULB the stiff middle finger when Israel was told to get out of Jenin, Ramallah and Rafah recently? ).

There are many Russian nukes that have disappeared since the Soviet Empire collapsed and thousands of nuclear warheads, nuclear devices and raw platonium that is missing. Israel knows that their whereabouts are unknown--but that they will make a cameo appearance in the hands of the enemy the day the Middle East goes to war to cleanse the region of the Zionist parasites.

The Jericho II IRBM is a joke. The last major test in 1998 was a fiasco. The missile went 120 Km. off course and almost hit an observer US telemetry ship!

The Arrow II anti-missile-missile is supposed to ba able to thread a needle from 500 Km. away. The US has sunk billions into it ( During the Wye River meetings between the Palestinains, Jews and the US, the US gave Israel an additional $2 billion for the Arrow missile ) and yet the missile is a joke. Like the US patriot missile that so impressed the American public with its many 'hits' against Saddams' primative Scud missiles during the Guld war--only to find out ( after the war ) that the Pentagon had lied and that the Patriot had been an utter failure except for 2 or 3 'lucky' hits.

The diesel subs Germany has built for Israel are great--but only in a third word sense. The Russians keep tabs on them on a daily basis and if the need to sink them ever came around they could be sunk in a second. They are as sophisticated as US subs were in the 1980's.

Egypt and Iran have Russian and Chinese anti-submarine missiles that can dive and travel up to 200 Km. ( at over 500 MPH underwater! ) searching for a submarine and take it out with a 1/4 kiloton nuclear or conventional antisubmarine warhead!

So let the US produced Zionist Frankenstein Monster growl and make the earth shake below him--in the end he will get his plug pulled and all that will be left is Zionists galore--floating up in the staratosphere looking like ( radioactive ) fireflies glowing in the Mississippi night.

TheAZCowBoy,
reply by
ADAM
7/5/2002 (18:47)
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HEY AZ, ARE STILL DAY DREAMING?!!
reply by
Lynette
7/5/2002 (23:13)
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AZ speaks the unpatatable truth in this forum Adam, and you know it.We know exactly what is going down in that Zionist hellhole. We in the West are going to pay a very high price for allowing Israel to stomp all over the Palestinian people with no hope for change. The Pals are so politically and militarily weak they stand no chance in hell to stop Israel's plans for their societie's eventual destruction. The Greater Israel plan is currently in the works (with the green light virtually being given by the USA)and the entire arab world is unable or unwilling to stop it. US policy in this matter is appallingly one sided and cruel. While Bushie carps to the world that America 'STANDS FOR FREEDOM,JUSTICE AND LIBERITY*, it seems to me and millions of others around the globe that this does NOT apply to the BESEIGED, BELEAGURED, DOWNTRODDEN,DESPERATE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE......huh?

Your lovey dovey Yids swarm all over their ancestoral lands like vicious crocodiles and you have the gaul to tell us that Israel is in 'mortal' danger..........give us a frigging break, will ya! We are tired of hearing Israel's incessant bleatings.......
BTW- Herr Sharon is bringing in 1 million Agentinian Yids into the OCCUPIED territories in the next 8 years or so............BUT YOU LYING BASTARDS KEEP TELLING US THAT YOU WANT PEACE.......THAT YOU WILL DISMANTLE THE SETTLEMENTS.......THAT THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE A STATE..........LYING,NEFARIOUS,SCORCHED EARTH POLICY, BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!
reply by
ADAM
7/6/2002 (3:05)
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AZ SPEAKS THE TRUTH?!!
WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY A HIGH PRICE. PALS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THEIR STUPID LEADERSHIP. DON'T YOU TRY TO PUT THE BLAMES ON ISRAEL. ACTUALY, PALS ARE SUFFERIG BECAUSE NO ARAB LEADERSHIP GIVES A DAMN FOR THEIR WELL BEING!!
PALS WILL BE KEEP SUFFERIG, EVEN AFTER THE STABLISHMENT OF A STATE! YOU SEE MY FRIEND, THE ARAB COUNTRIES WILL NOT ALLOW PALS TO BECOME A DEMCRATIC STATE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A DEMOCRATIC ARAB ATATE IN THEIR MIDST!
reply by
Lynette
7/6/2002 (7:04)
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YOU R FULL OF BULLSHIT ADAM!


Jesus was a believer in social justice and mercy........Israel is a believer in neither for the Palestinian people. If the shoe fits,Israel should wear it.......ETHNIC CLEANSERS INC. The game is up and finally we see the Zionist plan for what it is, huh? Cry all you want Adam, the world isn't buying Israel's piss weak explanations anymore.