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Just Wondering
7/9/2002 (12:31)
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I see a lot of people citing different websites and sources. How do I know if these folks are telling the truth or bullshitting me?

For example, is the following true? I found it on a website.


The Self-Perpetuating Tool of Arab Imperialism


ISLAM: The Arab Imperialism
by Anwar Shaikh

Chapter Seven
ISLAM, THE SELF-PERPETUATING
TOOL OF ARAB IMPERIALISM

Muhammad was not the only person in Arabia, who had claimed to be the Prophet of God. There was Taliha, chief of the Bani Asad, who was acknowledged to have power of divination. He was defeated by Khalid in a severe engagement. Museilima was another contender in this field. He worked miracles and claimed to have been sent by Allah to share the dignity of Prophethood with Muhammad. He went so far as to assert that Muhammad had recognised his claim. Eventually, he was killed in the battle of Al- Yemama, which could have proved disastrous to the survival of Islam. Al-Aswad, known as the Veiled Prophet of Yemen, was yet another claimant in this field. Though brave and a willing fighter, he was arrogant and thus, lacked popular appeal. He was brought to his end by a spate of intrigues skilfully conducted by the followers of Islam.

Existence of several Prophets at the same time in the same country shows that Prophethood has nothing to do with Allah; it is simply a contrivance to hypnotise people through supernatural ruses. God would not have sent so many Prophets to the Arabs at the same time. These men were, obviously, self-designated Prophets. Muhammad won because he adopted national approach, which appealed to the patriotic men of his age like Abu Bakr and Umar, whose combined efforts not only saved Islam from extinction but also substantially contributed towards its glory. The other contestants in this field lost owing to their parochial approach. On the contrary, Muhammad's design was not only nationalistic but also highly ambitious because it promised imperial dignity to the Arabs, who had known nothing except destitution, distress and degradation. This was the dream that only a man of Muhammad's stature could make come true. His success surely proves the evolutionary maxim: survival of the fittest. It had nothing to do with Allaah, who himself depended on Muhammad for glorifying Him. Let us look into his plan of the Arabian Imperialism:

He claimed that he was a Prophet of God, and there was nothing unusual about his claim because:

'Every nation has its Messenger; then
When their messenger comes, justly,
the issue is decided between them, and
they are not wronged.' (Jonah, X: 45)


This theme is also repeated in 2: 148. Obviously, a Prophet comes to a people to settle all their issues justly with the purpose of uniting them into a vigorous nation. However, according to the Koran, the effective way of securing national unity is through the appointment of a Kibla i.e. the direction of worshipping God: when all faithful adore the acknowledged Deity facing in the same direction, they demonstrate their oneness. This is the reason that hadith no. 20 of Bokhari, Vol. 6, says that every nation has its Kibla. It is also confirmed by the Koran.
The Prophet had declared Jerusalem, the most sacred Jewish City, as the Kibla for the Arab Muslims, but after treating it as such for about sixteen months, he changed it for Kaaba, a sanctuary of Mecca, the Prophet's hometown. I shall discuss the implications of adopting Jerusalem as the Muslim Kibla in the next chapter, but here I may add that this change was dictated by the Prophet's urge to serve his national purpose. The Koran, states:

'The fools among the people will say,
'what has turned them from the direction
they were facing in their prayers aforetime?'
Say, To God belong the East and the West
He guides whomsoever He will
to a straight path.'
We have seen thee (Muhammad) turning thy face
about in the heaven; now we surely turn thee to a
direction that shall satisfy Thee (Muhammad)
Turn thy face towards the Holy Mosque (Kaaba);
and wherever you are, turn your faces towards it.'
(The Cow, II: 135-40)


From these verses, it is clear that the change of Kibla from Jerusalem to Kaaba was affected by Allah not of His own will but at the solicitations of Muhammad, who was seen by Allah 'turning thy face about in the heavens (skies).' The hadith no. 5903 (Muslims) shows that it was originally suggested by Umar, the Second Caliph, who was murdered by a Persian slave because he thought of him (Umar) as a racist.
Fancy Allah's argument here: 'to God belong the East and the West.' If the East and the West have equal significance, then why is He forcing people to change direction of prayer from Jerusalem to Kaaba? Why can't they face in the direction they like? This step was taken by the Prophet in the guise of Allah to serve the interests of the Arab Imperialism. In fact, the change of Kibla has exerted a disastrous effect on the Jewish destiny and may have lethal consequences for human history, too. However, it has been a great boon for the Arab Imperialism.

The Prophet Muhammad possessed tremendous political skills. Having said that every nation has its own Prophet, he asserted that it was different in his case because he was The Prophet not only for the Arabs but also for ALL nations:

'Every Prophet is appointed for his own nation but I
have been appointed the prophet for all nations.'
(Mishkat, 5500, Vol.3)


When this claim of the prophet's universality is coupled with the change of Kibla from Jerusalem to Kaaba, then we realise the depth of Muhammad's wisdom. It means that non-Arab Muslims cannot have their own Kibla, which serves as the pivot of national honour and unity. They must treat the Arabian Kibla as their own Kibla and thus accept the Arabian law and culture to renounce their own national traditions. Do you know what it means in practice? Here is the explanation:
This act raised Mecca to the highest spiritual reverence. Muslims from all nations, both high and low, prostrate towards it, not five times a day, but every moment owing to the ever-changing time-zones of this planet. The act of habitual prostration enslaves their psyches, making them unconsciously obedient to Mecca; it decreases their power of reasoning, correspondingly increasing their intensity of faith, to worship the birth-place of Muhammad. It is amazing how Muslims beg Muhammad to intercede with Allah for His mercy both in this world and the world to come. Ordinarily one nation has to subdue another nation with the force of arms; the vanquished dislike the victor and want to be free, but in this case, all non-Arab Muslims shed tears of devotion to be accepted as the Arabian cultural slaves! Is it not a classical example of a lamb, begging the butcher to lead him to the slaughterhouse? This is the wisdom of Muhammad - may peace be upon him.

Being aware of human frailties, the Prophet exerted further psychological pressure on his non-Arab followers so that they must subordinate their own culture to that of Arabia. He achieved this goal by raising the spiritual prestige of the Arab institutions. Here is a brief account:

1. Kaaba is the House of God because the Almighty had commanded Adam to build it for Him, and it was also rebuilt by Abraham.

2. A Muslim's grave must be dug in a way that when his body is buried, it must face towards Mecca.

3. So sacred is Mecca that nobody must defecate himself facing this City. He who does so is a Kafir (infidel).

4. Allah speaks Arabic, and the Koran is also in Arabic, which is a very difficult language; all Muslims must learn it to be blessed. Fancy how biased Allah is in favour of Arabia.

5. The hadith no. 5751 (Mishkat, Vol. 3) reports the Prophet saying:

'Love the Arabs for three reasons because (1) I am
an Arab (2) the Holy Koran is in Arabic and (3) the
tongue of the dwellers of paradise shall also be
Arabic.'


6. Kaaba is the centre of Allah's blessings because it is here that 120 Divine Benedictions descend every day, and are then distributed to the rest of the world!
7. Ibne Majah reports in hadith no. 1463, that a Namaz i.e. prayer in the Mosque-in-Medina brings 100 times more blessings than a similar prayer in other mosques, and a prayer in the Kaaba invokes 100,000 benedictions compared to a similar worship in other mosques!

8. Even the Arabian graveyards known as Jannat-ul-Mualla and Jannat-ul-Baquee are the most sacred. According to a hadith, they look shining to the dwellers of the skies the same way as sun and moon appear to the people of the earth. Those who are buried there, shall enter paradise without any accountability and each of them shall be privileged to intercede for seventy thousand people!

9. Read the following verse:

'(O Prophet) tell people if you really love
Allah, follow me, and if you act like this, then
Allah will love you, too, and He will forgive your
sins ...' (The House of Imran, III: 30)


When read with the hadith ( 5 ) quoted above, one comes to the conclusion that to be a Muslim, a non- Arab believer has to live as an Arab to qualify for Allah's love and pardon!
10. It is a part of the Islamic faith that every Muslim, no matter where he lives, must come to Mecca for pilgrimage, at least once in a life-time, provided he has the means to do so.

Over two million Muslims from all over the world come to Mecca every year to perform the Hajj ceremony. Probably, the same numbers gather there to observe the Umra rites during the year. These ceremonies generate so much wealth for the Arabs that, considering their population, they can maintain standards of living compatible with those of the Western Europeans.

The Hajj ceremony has been a part of the Arab culture from time immemorial; it has developed from the Indian principles of idolatry such as Trimurti, Sabeanism, local superstitions and Greek influences. There is no historical proof that the temple of Kaaba was ever rebuilt by Abraham. Even during the early times of Muhammad, it was the centre of idol-worship along with the age-old custom of kissing the Hajr-E-Aswad, which the Prophet encouraged because of its deep association with the Arab national culture. This pagan practice which appealed to the Arabs, certainly helped the Prophet to gain converts for his faith.

The Hajj ceremony belongs to the pre-Islamic times. It is as much representative of idolatry today as it ever was. People perform the rites of kissing the Black Stone including the seven circuits of the Kaaba, which are considered emblematical relic of the stars' revolutions associated with the traditions of the heathen Yemen.

What is true of Hajj, equally applies to Allah Himself. It was the name of the Chief idol of Kaaba associated with Quresh, the tribe of Muhammad. The Prophet's father's name was Abd Allah i.e. the servant of Allah for this reason. He retained this name for his God because of its appeal to the Quresh. Again, Allah was an Arabian God, and everybody swore by His name irrespective of religion.

By such schemes the Prophet bestowed a greater sanctity on Mecca than the Jews could ever associate with the Temple of Jerusalem. The divineness of Mecca imbued the Arabs with an aura of holiness, which was made distinct by such hadiths that all Muslims must love Arabia, and those who begrudge it, they shall be deprived of the Prophet's intercessory blessings, and thus rot in hell.

In this Master Plan of Arabism, the Prophet kept himself right on the top: even though he calls himself a mortal and the servant of Allah, it is Allah, who along with His angels, prays peace to Muhammad i.e. worships him. Therefore, love and obedience to Muhammad is the true Islam and Allah becomes a mere euphemism for Muhammad, who has such a strong grip on Him that belief in Allah means nothing at all without acknowledging Muhammad!

The best way of practising Islam is to treat Muhammad as the Model of Behaviour:

'You (Muslims) have had a good example in God's
Messenger ( Muhammad ) for whosoever hopes for
God and the Last Day.'
(The Confederates, XXXIII: 20)


It means, imitating the Prophet even in minor details i.e. one must think, feel and act as the Prophet did; one must develop the same tastes and habits as the Prophet had; one must even eat, drink, talk, walk, sleep and look like him in dress and general appearance.
When we further ponder over the issue under discussion, it transpires that this doctrine i.e. the Prophet as the Model of Behaviour, is the true force, which makes Islam, the Self-Perpetuating Arab Imperialism because such a confession inspires a Muslim with the duty to treat the Prophet's principles and practices as his true guide of action. Here is a very brief sketch of the Prophet's basic principles and practices:

The fundamental principle of Islam is 'divide and rule,' which splits humanity socially and politically. It seeks to perpetuate itself through a permanent strife based on the distinction of Momin (the Muslim) and Kafir (the non- Muslim). The Koran in The Disputer, LVIII: 20, states this fact in undisputable terms: the non-Muslims have been labelled as the 'Satan's Party' and the followers of Allah and Muhammad are designated as 'God's Party.'

Further, the Koran calls members of the 'Satan's Party' as 'despicable' and declares that 'they are surely the losers' but about 'God's Party,' it adds:

'They are the people who do not love anyone who
opposes God and His Messenger, not even if they
were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or
their clan.... He (Allah) shall admit them into
Gardens underneath which rivers flow, therein to
dwell for ever, God being well-pleased with them,
and they well-pleased with Him. Those are surely
God's Party ... they are the prosperers.'


For a clear understanding of these verses, the following facts may be noted carefully:
1. Members of the 'Satan's Party' are bound to be losers. They are despicable because they do not acknowledge Allah and Muhammad.
2. Members of 'God's Party' are the people, who do not love the opponents of Allah and Muhammad, even if they happen to be their fathers, sons, brothers or members of their nation (clan). These are the people, who will prosper in this life and shall be admitted into paradise in the next world.



Here is the permanent division of Muslims and non- Muslims based on everlasting social and political conflict, assuring the Muslims the final victory. However, a person cannot join God's Party until he completely severs his relationship with his parents, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters and countrymen, if they do not accept Islam: This is the bane of all non-Arab countries where Islam entered by virtue of sword, migration or propaganda. In such lands, it becomes the duty of all converts to Islam that they must accept the Arab cultural hegemony, that is, subordinate all their national institutions to those of Arabia, adopt Islamic law, learn Arabic and Arab manners; love Mecca and Arabs to acknowledge Muhammad as the Model of Behaviour because being an Arab he loved and enforced everything that was Arabian. Still worse, they must hate their own culture and motherland to such an extent that it becomes Dar-ul-Harb, i.e. a living battlefield. In practice it means that they must set up an opposite camp in their own motherland and fight their own countrymen until they all surrender to the Arab Cultural Imperialism by embracing Islam. It is then and only then that the country becomes Dar-ul-Islam i.e. the Land of Peace; otherwise it remains a battlefield (Dar-ul-Harb) where murder and rape of the non-Muslims ranks as good; lying, cheating and dishonesty are considered necessary evils and hence, form part of the indigenous Muslim morality. Motherland! What Motherland? The land of one's birth where one grows up, lives and finds the last refuge, is deemed as the biggest joke under the magic of Arabian influence. These non-Arab Muslims develop a special sense of contempt for their own cultures and motherlands under the pretence of believing in the Muslim nationhood, which is just a mirage, a misconception, a morbid condition of the mind.
To realise this truth, look at Egypt, the land of the mighty pharaohs, whose imperial excellence spanned over 3000 years. This wonderful land of science, art, culture and godly manners, came down with a thud to touch its nadir when Islam took over its destiny. There are no Egyptians anymore. They all have become Arabs!

Or go through the pages of the Iranian history. Their majestic rule lasted for many centuries. So great was their empire that it was not excelled in size and grandeur until the British appeared on the international scene some three hundred years ago. There is a good deal that they contributed to the development of the Roman law, Greek culture and Asian traditions. They produced spiritual leaders like Zaratushtra whose deliberations were to influence Judaism and Christianity. But when Islam invaded Persia, the Arabs seized all her riches through a well-conceived system of plunder, which also included beautiful, delicate women, the throbs of the Iranian poets, whose plaudits, praises and panegyrics had contributed richness to the traditions of chivalry both in Asia and Europe. Thereafter, Iran was no more. All its political and cultural glory was decimated by the Iranians themselves, who, as a result of the Arabian grafting, started hating their own culture, which has raised them to the pinnacle of glory. They wanted to be Muslims instead of Iranians to qualify for the beautiful virgins, the pretty boys and smooth wines, mentioned in the Koran. Changing their own prophets, Zaratushtra and Mani with blasphemy, they constructed a new mythology known as Shiaism, which is totally based on the logo, love and lore of the Arab heroes, especially the immediate family members of the prophet Muhammad. Since then, the Iranians have lost their ethos. Aversion to what Iran stood for, has deprived them of the greatness, which only one's own national traditions can guarantee. They are no longer the Iranians that they used to be. Nothing inspires them unless it is based on the sycophancy of Arabia. The recent Islamic Revolution of Imam Khomeni testifies to this truth.

India is yet another major victim of Islam. The day Muhammad bin Qasim, entered Sindh as a conqueror, must rank as the most ominous, odious and outrageous moment in the history of India, whose proud, pious and powerful traditions have been the torch-bearer of world civilisation. The Indians, used to enjoying the warmth of ahimsa, were stunned by the violence that the Arab raiders displayed in robbing the rich and seducing the indigenous damsels. Yet the irony was that they did all this in the name of the Most Compassionate and Just Allah, who counts these felonies as acts of fairness when they are committed to torture the unbelievers. Then, this land that had become indifferent to the vicissitudes of history owing to a very long period of prosperity and plentitude, was attracted by more Islamic predators, who rushed in through the Khaiber Pass to loot her wealth, dishonour her daughters and crush her ethos that had stood the test of time despite its proneness to physical comforts and spiritual mirages such as ahimsa.

It should be noted that the harm done by these murderers, looters and seducers as conquerors, may be forgotten, but the wound inflicted by their ideology i.e. Islam, which brought them to India, cannot be effaced from memory because instead of healing, this hurt has turned into an incurable abscess. Though 95% of all Muslims descend from the original population and the remaining 5% also qualify as Indians owing to their permanent residence over the centuries, they all want to be considered as a separate Muslim nation, dedicated to the belief that their motherland is a Dar-ul- Harb. It is this iniquitous philosophy, which caused the partition of India. What the Arabs failed to do themselves, the Arabian doctrine of Divide and Rule has done for them. This is why Islam is the self-perpetuating Arab Imperialism; it needs no swords, no guns: its hypnotic appeal, which mentally and emotionally reduces man to the level of monkey, serves as the Power to achieve the impossible.

One should remember that Islam is the ambassador of permanent religious, social and political strife; it declares:

'Fight those who believe not in God and the Last
Day ... until they pay the tribute out of hand
and have been humbled.' (Repentance, LX: 25)


This readiness for war aiming at humbling the non-Muslims, has been the driving force of Islam, but it may cease to exist if there was another Prophet to come. Only fools will think that the Prophet Muhammad was not wise enough to be conscious of such a drawback. He not only saw it but plugged this loophole with his usual sagacity. He declared himself to be the Last of Prophets i.e. there would be no Prophets after him, and therefore nobody could change his Law of Strife based on the hatred of one's own motherland until it became Dar-ul-Salaam. Here lies the crux: a nation is liable to hatred, hurt and humiliation if it does not embrace Islam, but when it does, it becomes the cultural slave of Arabia because it has to renounce all its national traditions to accept Muhammad as the Model of Behaviour, which requires adopting the ways of Muhammad, whose every breath seems to have been devoted to the glory of Arabia. What an unbeatable stratagem of imperialism it is!
However, I ought to point out that this doctrine of the 'Last Prophethood' contradicts the basic principle of the Koran, which claims that Allah sends Prophets to guide human-kind. See for yourself:

'Yet there shall come to you guidance from Me.'
(The Cow, II: 35)


This is Allah speaking to Adam, who is being ousted from paradise for his insolence. This is what seeks to establish the doctrine of revelation through a Prophet. If people needed guidance before Muhammad through different Prophets during all ages, why should they be deprived of this blessing after Muhammad, whose message has been completely vandalised by his own followers to enhance their personal interests. Again, why could not Allah have sent only one Prophet for all times right in the beginning to avoid prejudices and wars that the faiths preached by different Prophets create? If there is God, He cannot even imagine this kind of mischief, which is destructive to His creatures. To be respectable, God must act in an honourable manner.
Since every culture has its own traditions, Prophethood, as a part of the Middle Eastern culture, has a validity for its own people. But thrusting it on other nations as Islam does for establishing Arab hegemony, is aggressive and undesirable. On the contrary, the Mosaic Prophethood is harmless because the Jews do not seek conversion through propaganda, persecution and promises.

Still worse is the Islamic attitude that preaches destruction of the Jews as part of faith and means of salvation. It has caused such an inhuman animosity between the Muslim and Jewish groups that it is likely to threaten survival of the human race. Let us ponder over this point in the next chapter.

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John Calvin
7/9/2002 (14:10)
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Depends on your point of view. To an anti-religious bigot this article is very true. To responsible historians, serious theologians and members of the faith and all peace-loving people it is nothing but a bunch of distortiuons and lies. It is so ridiculous as to not be worth responding to in any more detail than that whatsoever.
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R Marvel
7/9/2002 (14:14)
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No, the WEB is completely uncensored and unedited which means the most radical points of view can be presented unchallenged. Those who frequent these sites to the exclusion of others, will develop a distorted view of reality
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truth
7/9/2002 (14:14)
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A note to propagandists in the age of the internet ..
When trying to list a manifactured resource .. try to make up a name for the author that DOES NOT EXIST or else do not change any word in your source articles ... or else some one can do a search on google and find out what your source really says...
That could make you look not just silly and stupid .. but it could hinder the efforts of all your friends in spoiling the well later on ..

do not replace the word sufism with islam no more please.... and by the way that author is not really that educated in history even though his grasp for 'what might look probable as for cause and effect ' is kind of refrshing.
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http://www.hindutva.org/AnwarShaikh/
Memorable Writings
of
ANWAR SHAIKH

Islam is the most violent and intolerant faith that has ever been presented to mankind. Those, who hold this view usually quote, The Disputer, LVIII: 20, which declares that non-Muslims are Satan's party but the Muslims are God's party. Thus, it is the most sacred duty of the Muslims to annihilate the non-Muslims or at least reduce them to the status of tributaries.
On the contrary, the enlightened Muslims protest against this non-Muslim attitude: they quote Sufism to prove that Islam is an international ambassador of love. Of course, there is some truth in it, but who deserves the credit - Islam or Hinduism?

Basing his judgement on the historical and scriptural evidence, Anwar Shaikh concludes that what is called Sufism or Tasawwuf, collides with the basic principles of Islam, but it does conform to the Vedic doctrines. Therefore, Sufism, broadly speaking, is an offshoot of Hindutva. Then, why is it considered an extension of Islam? It is a pity that the people of India have forgotten all about their ancestral glory.
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can not wait....
7/9/2002 (14:16)
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So does talmud allow having sex with children or not ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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truth
7/9/2002 (14:20)
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Anwar Shaikh Exposed!


Anwar Shaikh, a non-Muslim wrote a series of articles against Islam and women's Rights. This is a detailed reopens to his false allegations.


Ref.: 'Islam and Human Rights', India Post, Dec. 4th, 1998. Anwar Shaikh falsely accused me 'Ahmed has not been able to refute even one of the points that I have raised therein'. I would like to wake him up from him retrograde amnesia by asking him to check India Post issues, Sep. 18th ('There is no compulsion in Islam') and Sep. 11th ('Human Rights – the Rose of Islam'). In these two articles, I have provided several references from the Qur'an and Hadith and yes logic to refute the series of article of Mr. Shaikh wrote against Islam. On the other hand you have failed to prove a single rebuttal to the truth provided in my articles. Thus the ball is in your court.

In his last two letter Mr. Shaikh has accused me of being 'anything but emotional'. Mr. Shaikh, an emotional person doesn't analyse the issue at hand nor does he provide any references. I fall in neither of these two categories, for my letters are full with references from the Qur'an, Hadith and yes, many un-biased non-Muslim scholars supporting my position. On the other hand your last two article in India Post (Dec. 4th & Nov. 27th) lacked a single reference and failed to analyse the logical rebuttal of any of my articles. Thus your own two articles are primary examples of emotionality lacking rationality.

Despite your out of context Hadith references and their misinterpretation, Islam is the only religion in the world that is attracting more women converts than any other.

'The surge in conversions to Islam has taken place despite the negative image of the faith in the Western press. It is even more ironic that most British converts should be women, given the widespread view in the west that Islam treats women poorly. In the United States, women converts outnumber men by four to one, and in Britain make up the bulk of the estimated 10000 to 20000 converts, forming part of a Muslim community of 1 to 1.5 million'

'Why British Women are turning to Islam', Time magazine, Tuesday, 9th November 1993.

Mr. Shaikh concludes his 'Rights of Women' article (Oct. 16th, 1998) with, '...the Koranic behest of purdah (veil / Hijab) which has been the major cause of destroying female liberties'. Mr. Shaikh, can you explain to us why do thousands of intellectual, 'liberated' women in the west are 'giving up' their 'liberties' and converting to Islam and adopting the purdah? Mr. Shaikh in your zeal to defame Islam you have failed to reflect on the statistics of the so called western 'liberated' women compared with the purdah clad Muslim women.

Mr. Shaikh, 95770 of your liberated women in the USA are forcibly raped each year, 1029810 women are sexually assaulted yearly, an estimated 1.16 million divorces were granted in 1997 (compared to 2.39 million marriages) therefore almost 50% of the marriages of your 'liberated' women end up in divorce, 15500 cases of sexual harassment cases are filed each year and 40% of all women polled by TIME and CNN reported that Sexual harassment is a big problem, 81% of these women reported that their male Boss or Supervisor asked them to have sex with him. (The World Almanac and Book of Facts, 1999; TIME Almanac, 1999; The New York Times Almanac, 1999). And the statistics goes on and on as what the 'liberation' of women and public display of bodies have done to the Western culture. And you call this liberation? This is oppression of the worst kind.

Contrast to your 'liberated' women, a Muslim women covering herself is displaying modesty and is conveying a statement about her identity. Anyone who sees her will know that she is a Muslim and has a good moral character. Muslim women who freely cover themselves are filled with dignity and self esteem; they are pleased to be identified as Muslim women. As a chaste, modest, pure woman, she does not want her sexuality to enter into interactions with men in the smallest degree. A woman who covers herself is concealing her sexuality but allowing her femininity to be brought out. They are less prone of being assaulted, sexually harassed and people around them are less prone of make a pass at them or crack any perverted comments around them. And the statistics don't lie. Mr. Shaikh this is liberation of the highest kind, achieved only by adopting and living Islam.

Let us hear from one Purdah maintaining, 'oppressed' women, Aliya Haeri, an American-born Psychologist who converted to Islam 15 years ago:

'Western converts are coming to Islam with fresh eyes, without all the habits of the East, avoiding much of what is culturally wrong. The purest tradition (of Islam) is finding itself strongest in the West.'

She is now one of Britain's prominent Islamic speakers.

'O Mankind ! Be careful of your duty to your Lord who created you from a single soul and from it its mate and from them both a multitude of men and women...' (Qur'an, chap. 4, verse 1). Thus a women is made from the same essence as a man and hence have similar rights and responsibilities before Allah, the One and only Creator. There in lies equality between males and females in Islam.

Mr. Shaikh, the more Islam bashing is taking place by the Media and the likes of Salman Rush-die and you, more and more people are becoming curious about Islam, heading to the public libraries, opening the Qur'an, analysing Islam and are converting to Islam. So Mr. Shaikh, on behalf of all the Muslims I thank you for making Islam the fastest growing religion in the world! You and others are always welcome to embrace Islam and realise its Truth.

Sabeel Ahmed

January 1999.

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[Currently, he is the co-chairman of the Da'wa Committee and Board of Director at the Muslim Community Center, Illinois. A student of Ahmed Deedat and now works for the 1-800-662-islam hotline of ICNA. His main interest is in comparative religion.]

reply by
Sincere
7/9/2002 (14:40)
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So does talmud allow having sex with children or not ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????



I don't believe it does, but I'm not that familiar with the talmud. Pedophillia is obviously against the law in Jewish culture. Any person caught having sex with a child would be punished severely by the community.
reply by
Religion (mind benders)
7/9/2002 (15:49)
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Unless it is involving the Hollywood Jews who were delighted a few months back to be able to promote incest and child sex on the silver screen.

Hey Calvin, just because someone does not believe in religion does not make them a bigot.
Quite the contary, religion has been the bigot in recent times with the immense wealth it possesed, and the way it was used as a form of control, by psychotic priests in all their regailia. Brain-washing the masses all lined up on the pues, like pieces of ransid flesh devoid of any thoughts of their own.
Religion also has been responsible for more bloodshed than most other institutions you care to mention.
reply by
John Calvin
7/9/2002 (20:17)
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Sure thing, You've really set me straight on this count. What could I have been thinking? I guess all those years studying history finally succeeded in washing my brain. I'm sure to be more careful from now on. Just imagine what this site would be like without all you serious critics around to set the record straight, a real 'ship-of-fools'.
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TheAZCowBoy
7/10/2002 (2:41)
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Here's something on the web that's true:

Read & Weep!

JULY 2000, pages 11-12

Special Report

Amnesty International Charges Khiam War Crimes by the IDF/SLA.

By Ahmed Karaoud (Amnesty International, Tunisia), Ina Tin Iversen (Amnesty International, Norway), Elizabeth Hodgkin and Claudio Cordone (International Secretariat)

(Eyewitness report from an Amnesty International delegation visiting Khiam Prison in South Lebanon.)

Dear Friends,

We arrived at the Khiam detention center, on a wind-swept hill overlooking the town of Khiam with a beautiful view of the surrounding fields and mountains of southern Lebanon, in the early afternoon of May 29. We drove there with a number of former detainees we had visited in the morning in their homes in the villages of Rmeish and Ainata.

Only six days before our visit, this was still a frightening detention center, with its tales of torture, degradation and hopelessness. The stories we had just heard in the morning from detainees most recently arrested and freed on 23 May did not differ significantly from those we had become familiar with over the years. Filthy hoods, relentless interrogation through beatings, repeated suspension from an electricity pylon, dousing with water, and electroshocks—one recent addition seems to have been a lie-detector machine. Only a few months ago detainees were sometimes still taken to Israel first for interrogation and then to Khiam, or taken to Israel from Khiam and back. Detention in crowded, dark and dirty cells followed interrogation. The waiting started, with minimal exposure to daylight, bad food and rare contact with the outside world—and this only in recent years.

Worst of all, there was the fear for their relatives who were often detained and abused as a way of putting pressure on the detainees. Detainees also suffered from the knowledge that they were being held as hostages as part of the trade in human beings or their remains, a situation in which Israel, Hezbollah and others have engaged, and which continues to this day. Only yesterday the Israeli Supreme Court was hearing the case of two prominent Lebanese detainees held in Israel openly as “bargaining chips” to find out the fate of Israeli soldiers missing in Lebanon.

Then, all of a sudden, around midday on 23 May, there was the dramatic liberation. No jailers showed up with the keys to the cells, they actually ran away from the prison to join other SLA members streaming to the border to seek refuge in Israel, as Israeli troops themselves rushed to the border. In a scene almost from another age, we were told that the people of Khiam, acting out of the momentum created by the hurried and confused Israeli withdrawal, went to the detention center demanding the liberation of the prisoners. The SLA jailers negotiated a safe passage for themselves out of the prison and left, leaving much behind, and no one was hurt. Detainees heard shouting, some shooting (it was in the air), and did not know what was happening. Some feared that people were being executed:

“We got close to the window in our cell to try to hear better, as we did not understand what was happening. There was shouting and we heard shooting. Then we saw a boy out of the window. He said, ‘Where is the door?’ We knew then we were free.”

Using any tools they could find, the people from Khiam broke down the doors, letting the detainees out, in the chaotic and exciting scenes that were captured on television. All 144 remaining detainees came out, many left their few belongings behind. For the first time, they could also see without terror the places and some of the instruments of torture that the SLA abandoned in their panicky flight. Former prisoners accompanied us, as we saw the filthy hoods, many made of thick blue material, scattered around. We also saw a metal grid, roughly built on the face of a wall, in what we were told was the main interrogation room—at the foot of one of the watchtowers. This was also reminiscent of another age. Prisoners Ni’ma Daqduq and De Gaulle Boutros showed us how they were tied to the grid and beaten. This is where the electroshock machine was apparently kept, although, perhaps not surprisingly, it is no longer there.

They also took us to the electricity pylon placed in a small enclosed courtyard, where so many were tied up, stripped to their underwear and, with a hood over their heads, were beaten or doused with water. As the former prisoners related this experience to us standing next to the pylon, other visitors gathered around to listen, many clearly moved. The prisoners themselves were being affected, as we saw in the case of Najwa Semhat, who was returning for the first time after her release six days before, with her daughter and husband—himself a former detainee—especially when she faced her cell with memories all too fresh. But they were all incredibly brave, patiently telling us what had happened to them, and often repeating it to journalists and others from among the hundreds, possibly thousands, of people coming to see the detention center.

For the former Khiam detainees, it must be difficult to realize that they are actually free, that the nightmare of Khiam is over. It was all so sudden. Muhammad Jamil found among the clothes, food and other things scattered around in his former cell, a piece of embroidery he had made; De Gaulle Boutros picked up a drawing on a paper tissue: small but significant things that became important in their prisoner lives.

It was an extraordinary and moving day, full of incongruous sights and strong, mixed emotions. On the one hand, a festive atmosphere, with kids waving flags—primarily those of Hezbullah and Amal—playing in the wreck of a military vehicle abandoned in the central courtyard and enjoying refreshments from vendors at the gate of the center. On the other hand, former prisoners, sometimes with their families and sometimes alone, telling their stories, bumping into each other, recognizing and embracing each other in highly emotional scenes, often fighting back the tears. And occasionally the sight of Lebanese government, religious and party officials, also in the melee.

With the traces of its terrible past still fresh, Khiam is at the same time already well into history. The feelings we felt and shared with others were a sense of relief, even celebration, as something terrible was over for good. At the same time we knew that the euphoria will not last, that in the next weeks and months prisoners will have to restart their lives away from the limelight, facing health problems, economic and other difficulties. A chapter is closing, but another one has immediately opened, more intimate, more difficult for the prisoners and their families. Amnesty International will continue to help.

International Solidarity

International solidarity will be essential to provide a minimum of practical as well as psychological support to the victims of Khiam. We have seen how solidarity does have an effect as prisoners learned, some for the first time, that people from different countries, including countries they associate with their former tormentors, had actually been campaigning for years on their behalf and are ready to continue to help.

For us, it felt that this is what Amnesty International is really about. We showed copies of our actions and reports, from the first Urgent Action of November 1985, to the main report on 1992, to the last Urgent Action issued only one week before the prisoners were freed. We had with us some of the hundreds of letters we received from the Israeli authorities saying they could not deliver them to the SLA or that in any case they had nothing to do with the detention center. No letters were ever received by the detainees and they did not know that Amnesty International members and others around the world were working for them.

Toward the end of our visit, we gave the former prisoners a letter that was sent via Israel to the commander of the SLA by an Urgent Action group from Cornell University in the United States of America in November 1985. It was returned to the group by the Israeli authorities saying they could not deliver it, a fiction that was to be repeated in the following years. Now Amnesty International delegates had brought the still-sealed letter to Khiam, and the prisoners opened it under the barbed wire of the exercise yard. One of them, Muhammad Jamil, read it out in English. It was an appeal for protection against torture and arbitrary detention. Another prisoner we encountered turned out to be one of those whose photographs were featured on the cover of our 1992 report on Khiam. He clutched his copy thankfully while we inquired about how he was doing and took his current address. Amnesty International will stay in touch.

Beyond the reality of the prisoners, there is that of the former jailers and their masters. The crimes committed in Khiam were of the most serious violations of human rights and international humanitarian law—in short, war crimes. Hundreds of SLA members have been arrested, perhaps including some who were involved in the crimes of Khiam. While Lebanon is entitled to exercise leniency or even pardon them for their taking up arms on the side of Israel, there should be no blanket amnesty for any serious abuses they have committed. For torture and other serious abuses they should be brought to justice in fair trials without the death penalty.

Together with the responsibility of the SLA, there is the responsibility of the state of Israel, which is fully accountable for the arbitrary detention, torture and other abuses committed in Khiam. Repeated denials of this never rang true and sometimes seemed more of an attempt to dissociate Israel from the worst excesses officials knew were being committed in Khiam.

Last year Israel admitted, in a High Court case to which Amnesty International’s information had contributed, that Israel paid and trained the SLA guards, and even that their personnel assisted with polygraph tests. Najwa Semhat told us that only this January she was taken to Israel for interrogation for a few hours and then returned to Khiam.

Of course the fate of the Israeli soldiers missing in Lebanon must be clarified, and those responsible for any abuses committed against them must also be held to account (one of the soldiers, Ron Arad, appears to have been held for up to a year by a Lebanese militia before “disappearing”). But this does not provide Israel with any justification to commit abuses.

One thing is clear, among the rapid and complex changes witnessed in south Lebanon in recent days: that much of the work begins now, for members of Amnesty International as well as for others who care about human rights, regardless of borders.