Topic: American Spirit: United Flight 93

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Mark
11/28/2001 (21:28)

Newsweek December 3,2001

A recent edition of Newsweek reveals the most detailed account, to date, of the heroism displayed by the doomed American passengers aboard United Flight 93 on the morning of September 11, 2001.

To remind the contributors to this board (John Calvin, Nemesis, Sandra,Liz Beech, Someone, et al), the story of United Flight 93 is the story of how a small group of ordinary Americans came together in a matter of a few minutes to foil a
terrorist plot hatched by radical Islamic fundamentalists to drive a commercial plane into a symbol of American Greatness.

I recommend this article to the anti-American, pro-terrorist sympathizers who frequent this message board.

The article is instructive. To read and understand what happened
on Flight 93 is to understand why America will lead the world against terrorism. To understand what happened on Flight 93 is to understand why terrorism is futile in the face of the American Spirit. To understand what happened on Flight 93 is to understand why the civilized world, lead by America, will vanquish the terrorists. One by one if need be. Vanquished nonetheless.

The terrorists aboard Flight 93 are said to have attacked the USA, in the name of their religion, because they believed the USA to be at fault for the pathetic Islamic record in the area of modern political and economic develpoment.

To ascribe to the USA the power to control the destiny of 17 of 18 Muslim countries is to greatly overestimate the power of the USA. (I say 17 of 18 Muslim countries because only one Muslim country is democratic and truly an ally of the USA: Turkey).

Rather than strike out against the USA the terrorists would have been wise to petition their respective governments with their grievances. Instead the terrorists choose to wake a sleeping giant whose wrath, like it's compassion, has no limit.

But I digress.

Whereas the terrorists proved they were willing to die for and on the basis of, a perverted interpretation of their religion, Americans are not willing to go to war for religion. It won't happen.

Rather, Americans are willing to go to war and die for an idea older than religion: FREEDOM.

The passengers aboard United Flight 93 rose up against the tyranny imposed by the terrorists. The passengers of Flight 93 fought the first battle in the defense of freedom for all civilized men, women, and children. When this is understood by the terrorists then, perhaps, they will begin to understand why they will not win in the long run.

Victory. Victory at all costs. Victory in spite of the terror. Victory no matter how long and hard the road. For without victory there is no survival. Winston Churchill, London, 1940.

reply by
John Calvin
11/29/2001 (3:54)

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Interesting: 'the story of flight 93', kind of like the story of Stonehenge',in fact, pretty much a dead mystery to which the imagination can apply itself without much restriction. Same can be said of the 'radical, fundamentalists' who took over the plane ( actually we still don't really know much about them or their motives. If any other suspects show up we'd have to suspend the usual rules of evidence, deny them choice of a lawyer and try them before a military tribunal to get a sure conviction.)

'Their perverted notion of their religion', obviously spoken by an expert who has spent years studying Islam, as he has the governments of the Arab and Islamic world. The more ignorant a person is about the subject, the more certain they are that they know of which they speak, the more completely contradactory their statements, the more they pretend to speak 'for all of America', the more juvenile and hot-headed their temper, the more insulting they are to people who disagree.

Note 'The sleeping giant whose wrath has no limit'. Find a statement like that in the speeches and writings of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln who-by the way- dealt with 'terrorists' all the time i.e. native Americans.

One can hardly imagine what Mark means by freedom except perhaps by inference ( 'free love' and an SUV in every garage).

Never-the-less, one has to admit Mark is 'dong his bit', making sure all us Arab-Muslim sympathizers on Mid-EastRealities are held to account for our twisted, unpatriotic views!

reply by
Mark
11/29/2001 (17:12)

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In response to John Calvin's post:

I was rather hoping I might hear from you. You havn't diappointed me.

The points you raise in response to my posting are rather incoherent. They certainly fail to refute anything I said.

Your voice is quaintly nostalgic but crudely imitative of the voices I recall hearing raised in dissent of the War against Iragi aggression in the early '90's. Then, as now, you and yours first misremember history and then misapply it.

I mean, really, Lincoln and the Indians? Stonehenge? SUV's equal freedom? Come on...is that the best you can do? I'll expect better from you in the future.

reply by
Barb
12/1/2001 (15:57)

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We're waiting, John Calvin...