When the killing of a loved one hits home.
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TheAZCowBoy
8/1/2002 (1:37)
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The ethics of revenge--by a father who lost his son to terror

A speech made by Yitzhak Frankenthal, Chairman of the Families Forum, at a rally in Jerusalem on Saturday, July 27, 2002, outside the Prime Minister’s residence.

My beloved son Arik, my own flesh and blood, was murdered by Palestinians. My tall blue-eyed golden-haired son who was always
smiling with the innocence of a child and the understanding of an
adult, my son.

If to hit his killers, innocent Palestinian children and other civilians would have to be killed, I would ask the security forces to wait for another opportunity. If the security forces were to
kill innocent Palestinians as well, I would tell them they were no better than my son's killers.

My beloved son Arik was murdered by a Palestinian. Should the
security forces have information of this murderer's whereabouts,
and should it turn out that he was surrounded by innocent children
and other Palestinian civilians, then – even if the security forces
knew that the killer was planning another murderous attack that was
to be launched within hours and they now had the choice of curbing
a terror attack that would kill innocent Israeli civilians but at the cost of hitting innocent Palestinians, I would tell the security forces not to seek revenge but to try to avoid and prevent the death of innocent
civilians, be they Israelis or Palestinians.

I would rather have the finger that pushes the trigger or the button
that drops the bomb tremble before it kills my son's murderer, than
for innocent civilians to be killed. I would say to the security forces: do not kill the killer. Rather, bring him before an Israeli court. You are not the judiciary. Your only motivation should not be vengeance, but the prevention of any injury to innocent civilians.

Ethics are not black and white – they are all white. Ethics have to be
free of vengefulness and rashness. Every act must be carefully weighed before a decision is made to see whether it meets the strict ethical criteria. Ethics cannot be left to the discretion of anyone
who is frivolous or trigger-happy. Our ethics are hanging by a thread, at the mercy of every soldier and politician. I am not at all sure that I am willing to delegate my ethics to them.

It is unethical to kill innocent Israeli or Palestinian women and
children. It is also unethical to control another nation and to lead it to lose its humaneness. It is patently unethical to drop a bomb that kills
innocent Palestinians. It is blatantly unethical to wreak vengeance upon innocent bystanders. It is, on the other hand, supremely ethical to prevent the death of any human being. But if such prevention causes the futile death of others, the ethical foundation for such prevention is lost.

A nation that cannot draw the line is doomed to eventually apply
unethical measures against its own people.

The worst in my mind is
not what has already happened but what I am sure one day will.
And it will – because ethics are now being twisted and the political
and military leadership does not even have the most basic integrity
to say: “we are sorry.

We lost sight of our ethics long before the suicide bombings. The
breaking point was when we started to control another nation.

My son Arik was born into a democracy with a chance for a decent,
settled life. Arik's killer was born into an appalling occupation, into an ethical chaos.

Had my son been born in his stead, he may have
ended up doing the same.

Had I myself been born into the political
and ethical chaos that is the Palestinians daily reality, I would
certainly have tried to kill and hurt the occupier; had I not, I would have betrayed my essence as a free man. Let all the self-righteous who speak of ruthless Palestinian murderers take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves what they would have done had they
been the ones living under occupation.

I can say for myself that I, Yitzhak Frankenthal, would have undoubtedly become a freedom fighter and would have killed as many on the other side as I possibly could.

It is this depraved hypocrisy that pushes the Palestinians to
fight us relentlessly.

Our double standard that allows us to boast the
highest military ethics, while the same military slays innocent children. This lack of ethics is bound to corrupt us.

My son Arik was murdered when he was a soldier by Palestinian fighters who believed in the ethical basis of their struggle against the occupation.

My son Arik was not murdered because he was
Jewish but because he is part of the nation that occupies the territory of another.

I know these are concepts that are unpalatable, but I must voice them loud and clear, because they come from my heart – the heart
of a father whose son did not get to live because his people were
blinded with power.

As much as I would like to do so, I cannot say
that the Palestinians are to blame for my son's death. That would be the easy way out, but it is we, Israelis, who are to blame because of
the occupation.

Anyone who refuses to heed this awful truth will eventually lead to our destruction.

The Palestinians cannot drive us away – they have long acknowledged our existence. They have been ready to make peace
with us; it is we who are unwilling to make peace with them. It is we
who insist on maintaining our control over them; it is we who
escalate the situation in the region and feed the cycle of bloodshed.
I regret to say it, but the blame is entirely ours.

I do not mean to absolve the Palestinians and by no means justify attacks against Israeli civilians. No attack against civilians can be
condoned.

But as an occupation force it is we who trample over human dignity, it is we who crush the liberty of Palestinians and it is
we who push an entire nation to crazy acts of despair.

Finally, I call on my brothers and sisters in the settlements – see
what we have come to.

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How sad indeed it must be to lose a son or daughter to the savagry of war.

How sad that young innocent men go out to haunt and kill each other like animal's to satisfy the egos of those murderous old men that make these wars possible.

Indeed, if these bastards were put into an arena and asked to murder, massacre and bloody each other to their hearts content--the bastards would seek peace and reconciliation in a heartbeat!

But no, these 'men of high principal's' will cede nothing, compromise nothing--for in their minds a bloody 'victory' is the only acceptable verdict--no matter how many mother's experience the desperate feeling of knowing their young boys or daughters have been killed to satisfy these 'men of principals.'

Ariel Sharon and George Bush are these types of men of high principals. Bush's high principals motivated him to dodge the draft when the war in Vietnam was at its peak. 'Hell no, we won't go,' were the words that made this incompetent burn with anger--but in the end, his hide was more important than his high 'principals.'

Ariel Sharon, was a much different breed of animal, he was a 'born killer,' he not only asnwered his emerging nations call to arms--but he found that being knee deep in Arab blood brought him some sort of deviate Aztec bloody sexual release. He murdered until it wasn't murder anymore--but pleasure to the soul of a very depraved human being ( if a Zionist Hyena can be called an animal without insulting God's beautiful creations ), he succeded beyong his wildest imagination--and in the end Lucifer homored him by making him one of the four horseman of the Apocolypse--the lowest form of life known to mankind.

Death be a lady and take these man of 'high principals' and flush them down the world's toilet--to the cess pool of humanity, to join with with the Adolph Hitlers, the Milosevics, the Pol Plots, the Attila-the-huns, the Menechem Begins--all murdering rats, one and all!

TheAZCowBoy,
reply by
Lynette
8/1/2002 (10:20)
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There are truely decent Jews in the world TAC, but sadly there are too few like this man. Only when the bulk of Israel's population see it like he does will there be change. Plus while you have people like Sharon, Olmert,Gissin,Dore and other like minded hardline radical hawks running the show, nothing will change in a hurry. Even Rabin's daughter has given up on them. She walked out in disgust and told the Israeli people that Sharon and his band of warmongers are dismantling everything her father acheieved in his political life with the Palestinians. it is true that Rabin despised Arafat as an individual, but he was willing to take the necessary steps to gain a better future for Israel's Jews. Sharon made an electrol PROMISE that he would do ALL in his power to restore peace and calm to the region. The Palestinian politicans warned the Israeli electorate that this man would bring total disaster upon JEW and ARAB alike. Sharon is an ex-general that hates their guts and he is willing to sacrifice any number of Israeli dead in order to keep his settlements expanding and the Greater Israel thingy rolling on....
The REAL tragedy is that as non jewish outsiders looking in WE see it for what it is.............they don't because of their emotional belief that they are reclaiming something that G-d promised them eons ago. We don't see this as a religious issue. We see this conflict as a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE. That is the difference TAC.
reply by
TheAZCowBoy
8/1/2002 (13:19)
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Re: LYNETTE; 'they are reclaiming something that G-d promised them eons ago.'

TAC: Time and time again G-d has punished his 'worshippers of the Golden Calf, DBA: 'the arrogant incorrigables.'

Moses went to his grave lamenting these misfits and would be CHOSEN who took the wrong road 'everytime' he took his eyes off of them.

40 years wondering in the desert wasn't the 1st or last punishment G-d visited on the Jewish sinners.

Many Torah Jews believe that G-d turned his face on the Jews during the Holocaust and millions(?) died. ( though we all have read how the Zionist refused offer after offer from the German Gestappo for $1,000 in cash to facilitate shipping the Jews to Spain and thereby save millions of Jewish lives ).

See:

WWW.JewsNotZionists.org

In Psalm 145:20 Jehovah promises the following:

'Jehovah is guarding all those loving him--but the evil ones he will annihilate!'

Though the Jew truly believes that 'Hell' is a problem but 'only' for the Gentiles, I am believing that when the end comes, and it will come, that the evil Zionist thugs will burn in hell as they so much deserve to!

TheAZCowBoy,