Bush forced to play down talk of war
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John Calvin
8/10/2002 (21:14)
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Bush forced to play down talk of war
By David Usborne in New York
11 August 2002
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President George Bush moved yesterday to damp down expectations of an early American assault on Iraq, saying he had set no deadline. But he stressed that he considered Saddam Hussein 'an enemy until proven otherwise'.

Mr Bush made his comments as pressure mounted on the United States not to take military action.

Asked by reporters at a golf club near his Texas ranch whether Americans were ready for casualties in Iraq, he responded: 'That presumes some kind of imminent war plan. I have no timetable.'

The atmosphere in Washington was noticeably changed this weekend, compared to a few days ago, when an American assault on Iraq seemed inevitable if not imminent. Doubts are now being voiced in Washington, including from within the Republican party.

The new flurry of debate came as the US symbolically joined hands yesterday with a coalition of Iraqi opposition leaders dedicated to the overthrow of President Saddam. Delegates from six opposition groups based both in London and Iran leave Washington today after two days of talks with American officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney. They take away an agreement to hold a conference on the future of Iraq this autumn in Europe.

The carefully choreographed contacts with the Iraqi exiles were meant to show a new seriousness by the US to plot a future for Iraq after the removal of President Saddam. No real specifics were discussed, however, for example on exactly what role the groups could expect in a post-Saddam government. The exiles spoke by video link yesterday to Mr Cheney, who is in Wyoming.

'We have presented our vision for overthrowing the dictatorial regime in Iraq and the establishment of a democratic and pluralistic government,' said Hamid al-Bayati, a representative of the Iran-based Supreme Council of Islamic Revolution. 'We sense more seriousness and commitment from the US government to overthrow the Saddam regime.'

But President Bush appeared to be striking a new tone of caution in the wake of remarks from Dick Armey, the Republican House Majority leader, suggesting that there was so far no real justification for military action against President Saddam. 'As long as he behaves himself within his own borders, we should not be addressing any attack or resources against him,' he said late last week.

The President hinted that he had not ruled out alternatives to the military option. 'Most people understand he [Saddam] is a danger, but I have a lot of tools at my disposal,' he repeated yesterday. 'I have also said I am a deliberate person.'

Mr Bush must navigate a tangle of conflicting considerations in pondering a military response to Iraq, many of them related to domestic politics. To back off would alienate his conservative base. But he faces opposition to an attack from Arab governments and his allies.

Political analysts worry, that as he approaches the mid-point in his presidency, Mr Bush may see attacking Iraq as a way to reignite the popularity he won with his declaration of war on terrorism after the al-Qa'ida assaults of 11 September.

'There is no evidence to suggest that Iraq is becoming significantly more dangerous, and no reason to think that we cannot continue to deter Iraqi aggression for many years,' said Stephen Walt, academic dean of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. 'The timing is being driven primarily by domestic politics.'

'Iraq is the next step in extending his wartime presidency,' said Constantine Spiliotes, a political scientist at Dartmouth College. 'Wartime presidencies usually work well for incumbents unless the war itself turns into a disaster.'

No date has been set for the Iraqi opposition conference, but US officials said that it could take place in September, in Europe. 'We made clear that we're absolutely ready to support them as they proceed,' an administration official said.
The Independent
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Zion Slayer
8/10/2002 (21:18)
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Yea, Bush-Goy is only taking the Jewish cock out of his ass temporarily. He DOES have to pay attention to his Gentile consituency occasionally.
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Zion Slayer
8/10/2002 (21:18)
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Yea, Bush-Goy is only taking the Jewish cock out of his ass temporarily. He DOES have to pay attention to his Gentile consituency occasionally.
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John Calvin
8/10/2002 (21:28)
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Dear readers, note zion slayers manner of speaking is such that he actually manages to say very little! Very much after the fashion of The AZCowboy- a personal tirade: sound and fury signifying nothing. The totally free character of MER General Discussion Forum makes this possible. Without it Zion slayer would be confined to neo-nazis message boards, since no other public forum of this kind tolerates this kind of language whose underlying message is on of hatred and violence and is not properly engaged in meaningful, productive debate or argument.
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Zion Slayer
8/10/2002 (21:39)
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I apologize to all who were offended by my characterization of the article I posted. I'm particularly pissed off at the Jews today. Again, I'll try and keep it a little more toned down for little pany wastes like Ms. Calvin. (Sticks and stones m%^ther F%&cker)
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Jack
8/10/2002 (21:54)
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and is not properly engaged in meaningful, productive debate or argument'.

What is this you are talking about Johnny?

'whose underlying message is on of hatred and violence'.

Sounds like the Jews attitude to the Palestinians.


'and is not properly engaged in meaningful, productive debate or argument'.

And also the Holocau$t.
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Zion Slayer
8/10/2002 (22:01)
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I'm SURE that little bitch, Ms. Calvin would like to vote away all my free speech rights. Can't say ANYTHING that little bitch doesn't like. Huh Ms. Calvin? ya little girl. Must be hell to wake up in a piss soaked mattress every morning.
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Chris
8/10/2002 (22:04)
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Have you got nothing else to say Calvin ? But.. 'Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi'.

You boring little pygmy !

The Jews who ran the Communist regime and the NKVD, murdered millions more than the Germans.
And they still are out in Palestine.

Don't be intimidated by the psuedo intellectual wannabe Zion Slayer. What you said hit the nail on the head.

Hey, Spotless Pinkie Johnny. Your Jew ridden government still got those unknown Afghani's trussed up like pigs on that bit of land you fiddled out of Cuba ?
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carol
8/10/2002 (22:10)
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They all sound like the same person.
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TheAZCowBoy
8/10/2002 (23:07)
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Re: Johnny 'C' just doesn't seem to be able to keep his 'D' out of his mouth, huh folks?

S 'matter Johnny, being displaced by TheAZCowBoy and ZION SLAYER and even ADAM and perhaps even LYNETTE making you feel unappreciated and/or useless?

YEAH, I know how you feel!

Hey, maybe a class in creative writing is some small community college near your village might help, huh?

~TheAZCowBoy~

Pssst, need 15 minutes of FAME?

Send me 5 Viagra bottle tops and 50C and I will send you a little of mine, da? Hahahaha, :))
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Lynette
8/11/2002 (12:57)
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King George looks like he is more interested in his golf game than the END GAME with Saddam at present. Or is that all 'theatre' for the masses these days?


Alexander(dumber)Downer is the only foreign diplomat with a boner for King George's grand 'Get Saddam' plan. Looks like Tony Blair has gone cold on the idea, just like his european buddies. Now we have Simon Crean (Aussie Labour Leader) saying that all UN inititives should be exhausted first before we commit one single aussie to a new gulf war. Does Simon know something we don't?
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John Calvin
8/11/2002 (14:35)
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Cowboy cuts and pastes his own shit!
reply by
What the world needs now
8/11/2002 (15:47)
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More John Calvins and less brain damaged 2-bit nazi racist scumbags.
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Peter and the Wolf
8/11/2002 (16:05)
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Everybody that critisizes that Israeli shitpit in the ME is always labeled a brain damaged 2-bit nazi racist scumbag pal. Your only problem is that 1.6 billion Muslims and 1.4 bilion Christians are f**king fed up to the back molars of your little shitty frankenstein monster state and her ongoing plans of Palestinian exinction. Throw all the insults you like. Uncle Arik's behaviour has given us permission to wage HELL on FANATICAL ZIONAZI'S bent on Palestinian genocide. The ZIONAZI'S want their own way. Even if it means fermenting world instability in order to achieve it.
reply by
Pipe down Lynette
8/11/2002 (18:27)
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Yeah, pipe down.
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Bill
8/11/2002 (19:15)
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Peter and the wolf,

I agree with your thoughts and logic regarding Israel but also think that personal slanders have been getting a bit out of hand on the MER website lately, especially when directed at John C