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i.hanan
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Ancona,
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8/18/2006 (05:47) |
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Ancient Racism Fuels
Israel's Air Strikes
By Rev. Ted Pike
8-15-6
Today 9000 Palestinians have been seized and imprisoned by Israel without trial. Yet when Arab militants captured one Jewish soldier in Gaza and two within Lebanon, Israel's volcanic fury exploded. Down rained death on more than 1200 hapless civilians in Gaza and Lebanon. More than half of them were children.
Israel reasons that a Jewish life is so precious that hundreds of non-Jewish lives may be sacrificed to guarantee Jewish safety. This racism permeates not only Israel's behavior toward the Palestinians but Zionism's whole worldview.
Only Jewish suffering really matters.
Roots of Racism
What is the basis for such egotism?
Although the state of Israel describes itself as the only Mideast democracy, it doesn't have stated borders or a constitution. Instead, Israel follows the authority of the medieval Talmud, a compendium of Jewish law going back to the ancient Pharisees.
The government of Israel is technically secular, but it endorses Orthodox Judaism, administered by the Chief Rabbinate in Jerusalem. 'There are very few Reform or Conservative congregations in the State of Israel. Orthodoxy is the official religious position in Israel, with the majority of rabbis belonging to the old school of Talmudic jurists.' (Encyclopedia Judaica, 'Judaism,' p. 396)
The military is presided over by Orthodox chaplains, empowered to dictate battlefield behavior consistent with the precepts of the Babylonian Talmud. The Talmud is the highest religious and ethical guide for observant Jews, far surpassing the Bible.
Because of its religious and racial identity, Israel and its potential today cannot be comprehended without a thorough understanding of its ancient past.
Just what is the religious inheritance that Orthodox Israel so zealously guards?
War against the Gentiles
Before Israel's 400-year sojourn as slaves in Egypt, God told Abraham that the wickedness of the Amorites who inhabited Palestine would become so great that He would use the Hebrews to judge them (Gen. 15:16). The Canaanites were notorious, even in the ancient world, for infanticide, homosexuality, bestiality, and every other perversion.
God knew Israel would never survive unless the land was forcibly cleansed of such evil. So God commanded Moses, Joshua, and the armies of Israel to destroy everyone who resisted. He Himself intervened with miracles and sent avenging angels on several occasions to level the armies that stood against Israel. At the same time, God extended a merciful hand to any Gentiles (such as Rahab and Ruth) who would convert from their paganism and accept His righteous law.
When Christ came to earth, His death and resurrection marked a new age of grace. Christ taught that it would no longer be through the death of Israel's enemies that Jews would find safety, but through His own redemptive blood. Christ commanded us to love and bless our enemies, sternly warning that those who take up the sword will die by it. Many Jews transitioned through Christ from a military racist mentality to one of love, giving God all privileges of revenge.
But the great majority of Jews refused to accept Christ as their Messiah, with horrific results.
Refusal to Change
God once gave the Hebrews transcendent spiritual light. But when they rejected Him, they were plunged into commensurate darkness.
No longer obedient to a holy God, the justice of the Old Testament wars was perverted by the Pharisees into a racist and rage-filled ideology. Such would become the new glue to bind Jews together in resistance to Christianity and the Gentile world.
Jewish militants, longing to see a Jewish government ruling the Gentiles, had been frustrated by Greek and Roman conquests of Palestine. In Jesus' time, the rocky hills of Judea were often dotted with the hanging, crucified bodies of Jewish zealots trying to raise an insurrection.
The Jews finally rebelled against Rome in 70 AD, only to be mercilessly crushed. Rebellion began again in about 119 AD.
Rabbi Akiba, Cabalist and one of the most renowned Talmudic rabbis of all time, proclaimed, through the insights of numerology, that a certain Jewish insurrectionist, Bar Cochba, was Israel's long-awaited messiah. Jews were electrified that their Messiah had come at last. Together, Jews of Palestine, North Africa and Asia Minor rose violently against Romans and Christians in the eastern Mediterranean.
The ancient Roman historian Dio describes what happened: 'Meanwhile, the Jews in the region of Cyrene had put one Andreas at their head and were destroying both the Romans and the Greeks. They would cook their flesh, make belts for themselves of their entrails, anoint themselves with their blood, and wear their skins for clothing. Many they sawed in two, from the head downwards. Others they would give to wild beasts and force still others to fight as gladiators. In all, consequently, 220,000 perished. In Egypt, also, they performed many similar deeds, and in Cyprus, under the leadership of Artemia, there likewise, 240,000 perished. For this reason, no Jew may set foot in that land, but even if one of them is driven upon the island by force of the wind, he is put to death.' 1
The emperor Hadrian, unleashing what Jewish historians describe as the 'Hadrianic persecution of the Jews,' again crushed Jewish resistance. This time, Hadrian didn't just exile many Jews from Palestine, as Titus had done in 70 AD. He banished them altogether, forbidding a Jew to even set foot in their Promised Land. He named Jerusalem 'Aelous Capitolina,' encouraging pagan worship of Roman deities in Palestine.
Jewish Militants Rise Again
For roughly 1800 years, Orthodox Jews, driven back to Babylon or dispersed among the nations, were unable to return to their land and wage war against the Gentiles inhabiting it. Yet observant Jews believed it was their duty to someday return, drive out their homeland's inhabitants, and eventually subdue the whole earth under Hebrew monotheism.
Their most sacred book, the Talmud, and its mystical/revolutionary companion, the Zohar or Kabala, teach that Gentiles are inherently bad and Jews good. For Gentiles to be in control of Jews is an intolerable blasphemy, throwing the entire universe into confusion. 2
For this reason, evil Jewish leaders remain hungry to overthrow Gentile or Christian power whenever an opportunity arises.
Of course, many Jews today are secularized and apathetic; they have no such ambitions and disapprove of Jews who do. Yet in modern Israel, especially in the government, military, and settlements in the West Bank and Gaza, where Talmudic values prevail, the moral obligation to cleanse the land of Gentiles remains powerfully binding. 3
This belief creates a fiery and violent zeal within observant Jews in the Middle East, a zeal to reestablish Jewish preeminence, whatever the cost.
Ascendant Israel
In the 20th century, Jews for the first time since the defeat of Bar Cochba experienced intoxicating power over Gentiles. When 4000 Jewish commissars ruled Russia in 1917, ancient bloodlust and desire for revenge erupted, resulting in a final death toll in Russia of 66 million.
Similarly, in 1948, Jewish terrorists could contain this impatient, murderous rage no longer. At the very moment when the British were about to leave Palestine, Menachem Begin's Irgun and Stern gang 'warriors' fell upon the peaceful sleeping Arab village of Deir Yassin, killing 254.
The bloodbath was reminiscent of Dio's description of the Jewish orgy of blood in the Mediterranean during the second century AD. Jacques de Reynier, of the Red Cross, recounts: 'The first thing I saw were people running everywhere, rushing in and out of the houses, carrying Sten guns, rifles, pistols, and long ornate knivesThey seemed half-mad. I saw a beautiful girl carrying a dagger still covered with blood. I heard screams. The German member of Irgun explained, 'We're still mopping up.''
Reynier saw the young Jewish woman stab an elderly man and woman cowering outside their hut. When he entered one of the houses, he noted that everything 'had been ripped apart and turned upside downThere were bodies strewn about. They had done their 'cleaning up' with guns and grenades and finished their work with knives.' 4
Alfred Lilienthal, in The Zionist Connection, continues, 'According to the accounts of survivors, the female members of the two terrorist groups matched the savagery of their male counterpartsBit by bit, Deir Yassin was submerged in a hell of screams, exploding grenades, the stench of blood, gun powder and smoke. Its assailants killed, they looted, and finally they raped.'
Survivor Saifyeh Attiyeh recounts how she was raped by an Israeli. 'I screamed,' she said, 'but around me the other women were being raped, too. Some of the men were so anxious to get our earrings, they ripped our ears to pull them off faster' 5
Even after the fearsome blood lust had subsided, surviving women and children were stripped naked and paraded in three open trucks down King George V Avenue in Jerusalem. There, the Jewish crowds, sympathetic to Irgun and the Stern Gang, spat upon and even stoned them. 6
No Remorse
Decades later, Menachem Begin, prime minister of Israel and prime mover behind the Deir Yassin massacre, comfortably chatted with Dr. Jerry Falwell in his elegant residence in Jerusalem. He was unrepentant of anything he authorized at Deir Yassin, considering the massacre a vital step towards creation of the state of Israel. He assured Falwell that he possessed the deepest faith in the God of the Old Testament, seeking his guidance to lead God's 'chosen people' today.
Falwell, awed by Begin's apparent piety, repeatedly fraternized and posed with Begin over the years, promoting him to American evangelicals as a 'great man of God.' Begin reciprocated by giving Falwell a new Israeli-made business jet.
Israel Serves a Different God
Apparently, Falwell didn't realize that the 'God' of the sadistic rabbinical-military establishment of Israel is not the God of evangelicals. The God of Begin, Shamir, and Sharon is a god of war, power, and revenge against all non-Jews. Theirs is a racist god who never inhabited the Old Testament but was inserted in Judaic thinking by those Pharisees of Babylon who took over Jewish religious life in the several centuries before Christ. The god of the rabbis is one who regards Gentiles as animals and, even worse, demons to be destroyed.
This view is repeatedly asserted in the Zohar. Among ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel today, such as those who preemptively kill Palestinian children in the West Bank and Gaza as 'terrorist threats,' the Zohar is of even greater authority than the Talmud. The Zohar incessantly repeats this message: '. . . 'living soul' refers to Israel, who have holy living souls from above, and 'cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth' to the other peoples who are not living souls. . .' 7
The Talmud footnote to Sanhedrin 98.b says: 'the Almighty Himself bewails Israel in the power of the Gentile.' This passage asserts, 'It will be difficult to remove the Gentiles from power without inflicting much suffering.' The Talmud says God is biding His time in heaven, plotting how to punish the Gentiles for making the Jews suffer; His terrible vengeance will be visited upon them before Israel's Messiah can finally be revealed.
After saturation bombing of Lebanon in 1982, Menachem Begin called the 17,500 innocent casualties of Israeli air strikes at Tyre and Sidon 'two-legged animals.' His chief of staff, Raphael Eytan, referred to them as 'cockroaches in a bottle.' 8
Criticized by the world for allowing Ariel Sharon to facilitate the slaughter of 800 Arab refugees in the Shatila and Sabra camps, Begin rejected any accountability to the world. 'Goyim are killing goyim, and they come to hang the Jews!'
The Real Terrorists
Today, more than any time in history since Joshua prevailed over the Canaanites, Israel is in a position to revive a policy of conquest by war. After the Deir Yassin massacre, Irgun and the Stern Gang told a group of American correspondents that Deir Yassin 'was the beginning of the conquest of Palestine and Trans-Jordan.' 9
For nearly a century, Zionists have covered their violent agenda with the claim that Israel wants peace. Actually, Israel is intent on conquest: first, of her Middle East neighbors, second, of all who oppose her.
Begin knew that what he began at Deir Yassin would be repeated against the Goyim worldwide. And he offered no apologies. Asked by the prominent journalist Russell Warren Howe if he considered himself the father of terrorism in the Mideast, Begin replied, 'No, in the entire whole world.' 10
Endnotes
1 Cassio Dio Cocceianus, Dio's Annals of Rome, Vol. 5, Book 68. (Perhaps the greatest authority on ancient Rome, Edward Gibbon, in his The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, gives full credence to Dio's account.)
2 The Zohar teaches that all existence is divided into two extremes: God above, Gentiles and demons beneath. Israel is God's Shekina glory in the middle, the practical, rational manifestation of God's will in this world. The sooner Israel dominates the Gentiles, the sooner the divine order will be restored. For documentation, see my book Israel: Our Duty, Our Dilemma, Chapter 12, 'The Conspiracy of Kabbalah.'
3 The Yesha Rabbinical Council, the religious authority for Orthodox Jews in Gaza and the West Bank, recently affirmed that despite U.N. resolutions and protests from the West, Israeli settlers are obligated, as a 'mitzvah', or religious duty, to drive Arabs out of Palestine through building illegal settlements. (ynetnews.com, July 6, 2006)
4 Jacques de Reynier, quoted in Alfred Lilenthals' The Zionist Connection, pg. 155.
5 Ibid pg 154.
6 Ibid pg 155.
7 Volume I, Bereshith, 47a, Soncino translation.
8 A Mr. Hareven, retired senior Israeli military officer, quoted in the New York Times, August 5, 1985.
9 Lilenthal, pg 156.
10 The Washington Star, June 15, 1981, in a column by Georgie Ann Geyer.
Rev. Ted Pike is the director of the National Prayer Network, a Christian-conservative, watchdog organization.
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reply by
james bailey
(72 posts)
Staten island,
USA
8/18/2006 (23:17) |
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Rev Ted Pike is an oldfashioned Christian fundamentalist. Unlike his contemporaries he has not seen Israel as indicative of Jesus Christ the Messiah's immeninet arrival, He is old school still blaming Jews for the death of Christ though to contradicts historical accuracy.
I have noticed than Mr. Hanan certainly gets the most enjoyment from the most bigoted haters. He has become a parody of himself.
All Hezbollah and Palestinan Arab prisoners are in jail in connection to anti-civilan crime. Mostly suicide bombings and attacks. They are not there there for chewing gum in class.
The most ferevent Jew Haters call Israelis, Jews. Ther is no magic viewscreens in military HQ's or on bomber jets jets that specifically target women and children. All civilans were in the vicinity of what intelligence desrcibed as weapons caches. At the very heart of Judaism is the golden rule.
Treat others and how you want to be treated. No sense of superiority. No irrational beliefs
No having borders or a constitution is no unusual thing among republics.
Only Jewish suffering really matters.
The Talmud is a compendium of commentaries on the Torah or OLD TESTAMENT. It has Pharisee roots as does Islam, Christianity and Jesus himself!
'Because of its religious and racial identity, Israel and its potential today cannot be comprehended without a thorough understanding of its ancient past. '
True as long as lies are substituted for the facts.
Lies. There is or never was a WAR against Gentiles. If anything it has been a WAR Against the Jews since the time of Abraham.
Joshuas conquest is a fable. Judaism struggled again paganism and did quite well for 2000 years.
'But the great majority of Jews refused to accept Christ as their Messiah. '
That pretty much sums up the Reverend. Like current Jew Haters he has incorporated Israels struggles against reactionary Islam. Of course he won't bring up the Messiah issue to them, for now. Those struggles are the lore of the Crusaders and Ferdinand and Isabella!
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g.j.crabb
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Pacific Palms,
Australia
8/19/2006 (06:01) |
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Response to message 1 written by james bailey
'All Hezbollah and Palestinan Arab prisoners are in jail in connection to anti-civilan crime. Mostly suicide bombings and attacks. They are not there there for chewing gum in class.'
You're knowledge is dumb-founding Mr Broiley,
Is it a fact that the Israeli Zionist criminals that planned and executed the carnage against innocents in Palestine chew gum?
I shall await your enlightenment.... GJ
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james bailey
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Staten island,
USA
8/19/2006 (11:13) |
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Response to message 2 written by g.j.crabb
I guess you didn't understand the anaoly. Mr Crabbe. Please state where I was in error. Taunts do not lead us anywhere.
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g.j.crabb
(1357 posts)
Pacific Palms,
Australia
8/21/2006 (05:09) |
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Response to message 3 written by james bailey
Should I not understand 'anoly' then if you meant 'anomy' then I do understand!..... GJ
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i.hanan
(2172 posts)
Ancona,
Italy
8/21/2006 (08:54) |
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Response to message 4 written by g.j.crabb
- GJ, Dear! You can't convince the jew that he is a jew, unless you can covince the snake that he is a snake, and the wolve that he is a wolve ..
- See this site plz..
- http://www.uruknet.info/?p=24885
- From 1936 upto this day this satanic undispicable brutality became a normal jewish behaviour and religious practice against all arabs Muslims and Christians alike..
- They have always been like that from times immemorial..Read Israel Shahak you can get his books from the torrents..free.!!
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james bailey
(79 posts)
Staten island,
USA
8/21/2006 (22:29) |
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Response to message 4 written by g.j.crabb
I meant analogy.
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james bailey
(80 posts)
Staten island,
USA
8/21/2006 (22:37) |
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Response to message 5 written by i.hanan
I am not a Jew. But what if I was Mr. Hanan. Are Jews special people> Or like you imply 'demons'. Remember its easier to kill demons than flesh-and-blood human beings. I think you are referring to the 1936-9 Arab Riots that led to the British White Paper. From what I have read, it was the Mufti of Jerusalem who led this rebellion. The Jews had fortified themselves unlike the 1920-1 and the 1929 riots (massacres). So the Mufti unleased a massacre of retribution and elimination of moderates. Of course we all know in whose bosom he spent WW2 with, The Fuhrer.
Is this the anti-Zionist Israel Shahak or when he died his internet personage was taken over by a Jew hater Israel Shahak. Which one?
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g.j.crabb
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Pacific Palms,
Australia
8/22/2006 (06:48) |
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Response to message 7 written by james bailey
The name James Bailey does not suggest Jewishness and one has to wonder, having read your posts, that the ploy of Jews over the centuries was to pretend to be on the 'other side'. This gave rise to the name Marrano which described the Jews who enlisted in another religion but secretly maintained their own.
When we look back on history this was to their convenience as they, mostly, were into the banking and trading of these countries and were accepted with having this double morality because of their ability to trade and bank. In other words the Christians and Islamics accepted this double standard to appease their own double standard.
These were the Shepardic Jews who were interested in emancipating with their Gentile brothers as most of them had become wealthy particularly in the trading of slaves and other types of this and that so why not go with the flow, ...many did and became established well to do types with purses fat from the misery of others. I am nor excluding the Gentile pariah who along with his Jew associate in crime kept this human trade going for some four hundred years. The scheme here of events was that the Jew Bankers and Traders had the wealth and experience to finance and control this trade in human misery. Let's face it!...., to be able to sleep at nights there is nothing like a double moral standard to rest the head on.
Today we are discussing the Khazar Jew who controls the politics of Israel, America , England, France and Germany to name just the big boys. This Khazar Jew has no claim on Palestine and the politics that got him there are nothing short of evil. I would suggest that you open your mind and seek some of the other information that is available as regards to this crime against the Palestinian people, instigated by the Zionist's and enforced by the western powers who morally had no earthly right to allow a mob of foreigners the sovereign rights over ancient Palestinian and to condone an ongoing forceful colonization of these Palestinian lands by these Zionist occupiers..... GJ
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i.hanan
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Ancona,
Italy
8/22/2006 (17:58) |
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Response to message 7 written by james bailey
-'Are Jews special people> Or like you imply 'demons''
-Yes they beleave themselves to be so; both Demons and Special People. Read Jabotinsky the spiritual theorititian of the Likud Party and the Jewish Neo-Cons fascist gangsters of America.
-What do you call FIVE MILLION persons leaving their mother lands in Europe, America, Australia, China, Africa, Russia, India...in order to userp a Country and drive away its peaceful citizens out of their country by brute force, just because the userpers call themselves jews?
-This is a unique historical phenomenon of perpetual evil going on for decades. A statistical phenomenon. It has nothing to do with you as a person..I may be a jew too..!! or may be not..!! My person does not count here...!!
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i.hanan
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Ancona,
Italy
8/22/2006 (18:10) |
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Response to message 8 written by g.j.crabb
-Please remember this article..
-Author Topic: The Infiltrators.
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s. s. soltan
(24 posts)
Almada,
Portugalm.
-1/19/2003 (16:37)
-A friend of mine, he is jewish; he told me that the most weird tribe of people in history are the perverted jews. They have perfected ways of forming secret organizations, methods of spying, and applied the most cunning behaviour of infilterating into closed or open societies, institutions and even nations for the porpose of steering them according to their own interests. He even revealed to me the strangest fact I have ever heard of: The purest Israelies are the jews of Arabia 'Arab Jews'. But the strangest fact is that these purest Israeli 'Arab Jews' are 7th- cenrury 'Israeli Muslims'. They are the decendents of the old Arab Israeli tribes who became muslims by appearance 'fake muslims' that is 'infiltrators'. They were driving havoc inside the Muslim World and Muslim Ideology ever since the down of Islam... The weirdest of all is that these same tribe of Israeli 'fake muslims' still exist dynmically, and are the most effective decision makers and measure players of policeis of all Arab Regimes..I do not know the validity of this theory ..!! But it explains a great deal of ambiguities encountered in the recent history of the Arab World..! Oh My God..!! The Arab World is ruled by Ghosts..?? Can you emagine that these dinosaurs
constitute 1% of the Arab population?? Some of them are also Israeli 'fake christians'...BELIEVE IT OR NOT..!!! Very interesting.. Can somebody elaborate on this Phenomenon???
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james bailey
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Staten island,
USA
8/22/2006 (24:55) |
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Response to message 8 written by g.j.crabb
Just because I support the Jewish side makes you paranoid. You are very suspicious.
You realize there is little trading/banking subset from Jewish origins that retains its loyalties or customs. There was very little continuity of this class in Europe due to persecutions and political upheavals.
The Palestinian Arab people have indeed been oppressed but they keep supporting movements seeking to end the state of Israel. Its simple cause and effect.
The Khazar Jew does not exist. The Khazars were 1/3 Muslim and all genetic links to Jews were disproved. Please don't invent labels for defamation.
There are no claims for any land.
Jews, Arabs nor Christians have claims to Israel for example.
My mind is quite open, I think you should examine your openess. I think that the Jewish settler attude is quite inflamatory unlike the rest of Israelis.
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james bailey
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Staten island,
USA
8/23/2006 (01:00) |
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Response to message 9 written by i.hanan
I have limited knowlegde of Jabotinsky. He seems to have shaped the Israel macho attitude.
From what I know of Palestine, those 5 million didn't just land in one day any more the 300 Europeans in the present day USA. In fact there is much proof that 70% of Arabs come from other Arab lands than Palestine. Palestine was a desolate province of Lower Syria in the 19th century.
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james bailey
(84 posts)
Staten island,
USA
8/23/2006 (01:02) |
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Response to message 10 written by i.hanan
This seems quite fringe.
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g.j.crabb
(1360 posts)
Pacific Palms,
Australia
8/23/2006 (05:30) |
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Response to message 11 written by james bailey
The Khazar Jew practiced the dogma of Judaism because of political expediency and cunning in that particular timeframe.
The aggressive dogma's of Jehovah suited this race of Caucasians and their eventual control over the Shepardic Jews was soon to be realized. This ugly head of Khazar Judaism controlled the politics of its day and Palestine was then burdened with the falsity of our international scumbags opting as representatives of the people..... sad shit when we look back to the words of W. Churchill who was aware of the Zionist Jew endeavor but lacked the courage to support his utterances as his political ego was far more important.... dismal failure in reality but revered for his utterances?
The Khazar Jew is todays Jew and should you deny that then I have no reserve for your ignorance.
I will not discuss your attitude to Jew banking as once again your ignorance is frustrating... a waste of my time to try and educate another Jew bigot.
What is your real name Bailey; I have posted mine but I wonder at yours.
The crap you keep posting is not even intelligent and as Jews are notorious for disruption I wonder at your cause??.... GJ
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g.j.crabb
(1361 posts)
Pacific Palms,
Australia
8/24/2006 (06:05) |
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Response to message 5 written by i.hanan
Hi IH,
I understand the problems associated with people of any race or creed who have had their minds taken at a very early age by their controlling elite. Added to that race and creed is the effect of warfare and its ongoing drama's which weigh heavily on the future generations. This type of horrific trauma imprints the human gene!
You cannot change a fanatic or even devout believer be it Christian or Islamic and similar to the Jew this belief has sent millions to their early grave to prop up a belief in Gods that do not and have never existed. We must also include in this equation the effect of pain and suffering on the genetics of the peoples involved as mentioned above.
So why do we encourage our youth to go fight enemies that in absolute reality do not exist; it seems we create these enemies to satisfy a unexplainable urge to dominate and like the Jew is it that our insecurities also dominate our morals.
A moral standard had always been etched into the human psyche long before Moses and his Ten Commandments. To offer an example is that the Australian Aboriginal who had survived in Australasia for some sixty thousand years before Moses sweated his ten commandment slabs down the mountain. The North American Indians are another and many of the African tribes ...., just for starters. There are many more examples!
Why are we all so hooked then on this God that is a mere two thousand years old? The Old testament describes what a blood-monger this bloke was yet we are willing to sacrifice our own lives and the future of our youth to perpetuate his sacred ego.
The Western world must blame itself and it's moral standard to allow the Jew the control over all. We have indulged in the fantasies offered and we have lost our souls to this Zionist Jew but should we blame him or should we take stock?.... GJ
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james bailey
(93 posts)
Staten island,
USA
8/29/2006 (01:34) |
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Response to message 14 written by g.j.crabb
To say that the observant Jew practices a hollow self delusion would be fine, but its lasted thousands of generations.
That timeframe weeds out all insincere and superficial attitudes.
Jehovah or Yahweh needed to be tempered to Jesus Christ or Yeshua to be accepted by the vast Caucasian peoples over a span of 1500 years. It was a jihad! But Jehovah was made into Zeus and Christ, Apollo. A compromise that still disturbs the Christian ramparts.
The Sephardic Jews and the Mizrachi Jews metamorhized their version of Allah. But it melds well with that of the European Jews.
There are no Khazar Jews, today. If 1/3 of the Khazars were Muslim. so it was said by Koestler.
To say Churchill was cowardly in the face of the Jews but quite brave in the London destruction of the Hitlers Blitz makes no sense.
Please you do label me a Jew bigot unless you actually converse on the ideas we both have first.
Do not look for the hidden ulterior motives but the here and now conversation here on MER. I only seek exchange of ideas and do not see anything I do as disruptive here.
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g.j.crabb
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Pacific Palms,
Australia
8/30/2006 (06:39) |
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Response to message 16 written by james bailey
Bigotry is all part of the human psyche; we all indulge in its scenario's, its drama's and we all dislike it consequences. The Jewish race are the masters of this intrigue and regardless of your protests our history is 'chockers' full of the Jew and his bigotry. I do not offer excuses for the so called Gentile as he also is a bigot but is, and remains, the pawn of the Jew, his weaknesses have allowed this control. How do you explain the politics of the US and their ambitions. I mentioned Churchill and what about Roosevelt; do you deny the covert ambitions of these two; do you accept that Truman's bombs were moral? There are many answers to be questioned and many questions to be answered and should we not trial with an open mind then we are bigots!
Like our double think it would be reasonable to consider that bigotry is part of doublethink and is then what they describe as original sin. Who knows, I don't, but I would wager a fair guess that mans weakness is his ego allied with his hip pocket.
Nowhere on earth has this 'hip pocket' nerve been so preserved than in the Jewish race; they are not the workers, they are the profit takers off the back of the workers or proletariat as the world revolutionists prefer? You deny Jewish activity when our history is full of Jew involvement in all the major revolutions and wars. Why is it so that this minor race has such an impact? Would you also deny the primary activities of the Jews and their 'tills' in the slave trade that lasted for some four centuries plus. Shakespeare's 'Merchant of Venus' portrayed the Jew and much is in this script if you are prepared to be 'open minded'.
Many authors have endeavored to answer this Jew question and two come to mind; Douglas Reed and Ivor Benson. Both of these men were at the cutting edge of the political fronts and both have questioned the Jew.
More and more of our history is being reappraised by many honest and diligent scholars and we all must applaud this massive effort to bring our history into a reality and not one just written by the victors. Yet America today is endeavoring to classify history to her likening so it is reasonable to accept that it has always been that way.
You also state that the Khazar Jew does not exist so you are in contentious grounds here and I wish you well.
You also accept the right of Israel to manufacture WMD; you also condone this military expansionism as the right of this force in Palestine and you also state that the Arabs are terrorists; you also cover for the atrocities committed by the 'Jew Gangs' as part of military yet the Arab counteracting this Jew expansionism is considered a terrorist; how would you feel should some asshole rape and pillage your home under a ostentatious law scribed thousands of miles away. We should all apply this rule of thumb and just maybe we may understand the pain and suffering of innocents.
Wars have always been about the the suffering of the innocents as the Warlords so know. This cements control. What they do not understand is that when innocents are subjected to constant abuse then genetically this abuse manifests in aggression... is it a fight or flight?
Is Iraq and now Palestine a modern example of this or should just we don our bigot cap?..... GJ
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james bailey
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Staten island,
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9/1/2006 (06:32) |
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Response to message 17 written by g.j.crabb
I believe that 'chockers' is your expression. If Jews on the run in medieval and early Renaissance Europe exhibited some bigotry towards their persecuting tormentors the Church,& the nobility I could certainly understand that.
How a few million Jews can control a much greater amount of Christians seems to be an admission of some kind of superiority. But then this 'superiority' is railed against as being the attitude of the Jews. (?)
Logic has left the house.
How these deliberation involve Churchill and Roosevelt are beyond me. They both had opportunities to save Jews in concentration camps yet choose to ignore their plight. nTheuy both could have made deals with the Third Reich; sending Jews to Palestine. How were they controlled by Jews? As Hitler always charged??
You mention the Biblical and Orwellian terms in the same sentence. I'm dumbfounded on that.
You mention a 'Jewish race' yet I have met Black Hebrews with roots in Ethopia, Indian Jews, Jews from Central Asia as well as the perplexing array of Ashekenazi. Sephardic and Mizrachi Jews of all colors. This seems to defy the archaic definition of race that hasn't been in use in scientific circles since 1950.
Jews are generally involved in similar trades and occupations as the Christians around them. Whether it would be the Mafia or any criminal activity. There is a proclivity among immigrant populations through the American settlement. it means that Jews are no different than the other immigrants. This was a result of the marginalization of newbies but is quite dfferent that European marginialization or ghettoization; That was a permanent feature illustrated by Jewish money-loaners as in thee Merchant of Venice. Fromm what I remember I don't believe he was protrayed as a slaver too.
I don't know about Ivor Benson but Douglass Reed was a Nazi sympathizer from the pre-war era who furthur marginalized himself by attempting unsuccessfully to link Jews and Communists after WW2.
Yes I can't see how the Muslim Khazars can result in your definition of the 'Khazar Jew'. You do not seem to defend your beliefs but simply declare the or proclaim them. I find that quite puzzling as this is a forum for the exchange of ideas.
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Pacific Palms,
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9/1/2006 (18:50) |
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Response to message 18 written by james bailey
Your replies to post are all out of the same mould; prepackaged recipes if you like. It appears the Jew must always smell of roses whilst always being oppressed by the white supremacist anti-semite.
Authors that offer criticism against the Jews are branded and in many cases are unable to publish their work. Douglas Reed is one example and as the Jews were unable to objectively criticize his writings they successfully kept his works off the shelves and assassinated his character; the ongoing work of the ADL and its mentor, Wiesenthal, who drops the axe on labeled anti-semites (sick joke this word) whilst managing to keep his dubious past very much in the dark. This is a long occurring drama to control the past and present by filtering the truth.
I called you a bigot and I stay by my remark; your 3684 post answers are of a bigot and the last sentence 'Its an insult to use that word 'Holocaust' radiates your restricted knowledge.
The past and the present are entwined; If that dumfounds you then I am not surprised.
The Jews financed, owned ships and were very much involved in the slave trade; they were not just going with the flow; without the Jew the slave trade would not have evolved into the ogre it became.
The Jews are the revolutionists and have been for centuries. There is no denying their capabilities and that alone is mostly misunderstood by the fact that the Jew is a covert operator. How deep does the rabbit hole go?
Labeling Douglas Reed a 'Nazi sympathizer' once again shows your ignorance and hence, bigotry. Your problem!
You are puzzled a lot and I can't help you..... GJ
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james bailey
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Staten island,
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9/2/2006 (15:18) |
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Response to message 19 written by g.j.crabb
You state that my replies are prepackaged yot your terminology is like going down the same road over and over. You constanly home in on the 'Jew' as if he is some mythological creature like the griffin or dragon instead of 2% of the human race.
I certainly do not want to make an impression that Jews do good always or that white supremacists are on their heels. But be fair, man.
From what I can see on the internet their are plenty of published works that criticize the Jews and even more that critique Israel. It seems that the outlandish or fringe appraisals of the Jews are the ones remaining unpublished and marginal. Even those I see on the internet. From what I have read about Douglas Reed is that his background as a Nazi sympatizer before WW2 is what keep him off the shelves after WW2. The Jews in the 1950's had little power as trying to keep a low profile lest be accussed of being un-American with their non Anglo- Saxon names and accents. The ADL and others maintain a heavy presence today and since the 1970s but I have not seen any Orwellian 1984 activity in changing history. Rather I see a greater concern and interest in history that was ignored previously in regard to Jews and just about everything else.
You do not know me, so how you can label me a bigot confuses me. Is it since I diagree with you? That does not make me a bigot. Bigots thrive on hate, And I have not exhibited that in my writings here.
The past and the present are interwined yet its your statements that separate them not mine.
I have read much about the slave trade. Indeed there were Jews involved in every phase, but so were the Dutch, Spaniards, Brits, French, the Portuguese, and others.
Jews are not any more revolutionary a than any oppressed people. They seems to be less revolutionary having been oppressed longer and not reacting to it.
In fact the Jews were just a bit part. You seem to have it in for the Jews as if they were a club that banned you excluded you. Your bitterness seems to have a personal tinge. You address them as if they are 60 individuals rather than the 12 million that they are. I suggest you reflect on my observation.
'the Jew is a covert operator. How deep does the rabbit hole go? ' are statements that seem to confirm that my ideas about the formation of your ideas just may be accurate.
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Pacific Palms,
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9/3/2006 (05:54) |
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Response to message 20 written by james bailey
If you are not a Jew as you have claimed Mr Bailey then you certainly behave like one.
Your denials and labels are constant, your disjointed recollections of history are a mere part of the whole and your 'wipe the slate clean' as regards the problems the Jews have created over time is never ending.
Bigotry does not imply hatred so once again we see a drama created should any criticism be leveled at a Jew. It's old hat Bailey and wearing thin!
I would be interested in your thoughts on the Russian Revolution as regards any Jew involve but ask you to limit any reply to about a page or less.... GJ
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9/3/2006 (10:58) |
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Response to message 21 written by g.j.crabb
Is it the characteristic of Jews to be open minded? Certainly you would not say that. I am.
You seem to be the party, here, with labels and denials. I have not used them at all.
In regards to the Russian Revolution it was really 2 revolutions with different motives. Jews were involved in both. Its not surprising since Russia absorbed the largest Jewish population in Europe from Poland in 1772-1795.
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Pacific Palms,
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9/4/2006 (05:24) |
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Response to message 22 written by james bailey
As regards the Russian Revolution we tend to agree that it was two revolutions and the Jews were involved in both. This is recognized history by most opinions so it matters little that we agree.
The first of the two revolutions was set up by the Jew and the takeover to implement the second was also setup by these Jew revolutionists. The human carnage in that revolution has never been satisfactorily reported and this cover up has also been controlled by Jews. Fortunately we have many courageous people who were prepared to tell it as it happened and there is now a comprehensive historical record of this human genocide controlled by Jews.
This human genocide in the Russian Revolution is probably the the most atrocious crime ever committed of man against man and today as in the past since WW2 we hear nothing of these atrocities except the constant reminder of the suffering of Jews in WW2.
My dear Mr Bailey; although you give me the shits with your antidotes to the frail nervous energy of our world I seem to be gifted with a patience to the insufferable and I cannot explain why I bother to reply?
Maybe, just maybe, in a past life I was out there raping and pillaging under a God and this is all now a part of my penance to make amends?.... GJ
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james bailey
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Staten island,
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9/4/2006 (10:44) |
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Response to message 23 written by g.j.crabb
You may not look foward to this dialogue but I do!
' it matters little that we agree.'
Too bad.
Reading on the internet points to an overwhelming Christian presence in the first revolution. While the second was completely atheist. Since Juaism is a religion and atheists renounced religion it simples a simple conclusion to me that they asre not Jews, any more. They constituted a certain pct. but no overall guidance especially since they tore down synagogues and churchs alike. I has not read of any pererentail treatment of the Jews over Christians whether they be Ukrainian, Russian, White Russian or Central Asian.
How Jews can cover this up from generations of historians far-and-wide in Europe, Russia especially by the bitter anti-communists. (The Whites)
That any accusation suddenly pops up 90 years after the Russian Revolution is certainly suspect. They just may have an agenda. Don't you think?
I agree that the Russian Holocaust is probably greater than any in recorded history. If you combine, the 2 Revolutions, the mass starvations in 1917-8, Lenin's attempted collectivizations, Stalins Starvation of the Ukrainians, Stalins massacres in invading Poland with Hitler, WW2,Stalins purges, Stalins gulags, Post-Stalin gulags, the exiles to Siberia (Chechens, Kazakhs,Jews, Poles, Lithuanians etc) you must get an amount that is stupendous. Easily past 40 million. maybe 80 million???
I'm quite glad I inspire patience in you. Mr Crabb.
I do hope you did not do such things in past lives. For all our sakes
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Pacific Palms,
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9/5/2006 (07:13) |
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Response to message 24 written by james bailey
I am not a scholar and I have not the patience to be one; I rely on the capabilities of my fellow man and woman who have this remarkable patience to spend their entire lives constructing frameworks of our history... but,... I am very cautious as to who I wish to read.
Opinions are like the grains of sand on the beach everybody has pocketfuls of them and so do agreements; it's the bleedin' obvious!.... agreements are generally a short time fusion of ego's for the gratification of all concerned.
The important issues facing all of us today is not the 'bleedin' obvious' but the hidden obvious and like old Sherlock and his mate Watson once you get a nose for it it becomes the 'bleedin' obvious'. Just a matter of clearing the cobwebs from the cerebral and looking for truth.
'Truth, like gold, is to be obtained not by its growth, but by washing away from it all that is not gold'.... leo Tolstoy.
Reading on the internet can lead to confused confusion; you must read established authors and it seems many of these are considered anti-semitists by the Zionist Jew and this is why authors toe the Jew line to get printed. Their works are then accepted but contain little fact.
You are correct in suggesting up to 80 million death in the Russian revolution and we, in the protected Western world, have never wished to understand this terrible crime against mankind. I do not think we will ever know the facts and I consider that most are not interested in the embers of this assault on human dignity and its ongoing repercussions. Once again, for us who wish for the truth, these many clever people who are sorting facts from fiction will allow us a window of knowledge and, just maybe, concern us with the negatives of aggression; a final tribute to the sacrifice of the Russian peoples for an agenda very few of them knew little about.
I am an impatient person and it is just one of many of my negatives so you should feel blessed!
If ever there is a day of judgement then I am sure I will pay my dues...... GJ
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james bailey
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Staten island,
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9/9/2006 (15:31) |
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Response to message 25 written by g.j.crabb
I completely agree with your summations on agreements and Tolstoy was right. Even more right today. Conspiracy, intrigue, & manipulation were always a big part of the Russian psyche. I was inherited from the Byzantine East Romans.
From what I can see on the internet there is no monopoly of opinion. Pro-Jewish or anti-Jewish or the same dichotomy in reference to Zionism, Globalism etc. I see no great effort to heroize the Jew but I do see a concrentrated effort to demonize him. Authors have more freedom today than ever. So Toeing the line seems irrelevant.
The Jews have been quite insistent in publicizing their share of the Holocaust and the reaction is of course denial from those jealous or zealous.
The Europeans and the Rusians really need to get their tales told without a Jewish context to thoroughly villify Hitler and Stalin.
As far as I concerned that non-virtue of yours is quite minor while we will be called to task for deeds done without thought to others.
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g.j.crabb
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Pacific Palms,
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9/11/2006 (05:47) |
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Response to message 26 written by james bailey
The internet is in all probability the last convulsions of free speech available to the politically incorrect.
Politically incorrectness is not anarchy it is merely the ability of some people to question and then analyze the answers given in light of fact.
You see, there are many questions to be answered and many answers to be questioned and once this is denied then there will be anarchy, the sperm of revolution and the bi-product of totalitarianism.
The Europeans and Russians cannot tell their tales in truth without the destructive force of the Jew being told in full light; otherwise, there will never be peace.... GJ
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james bailey
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Staten island,
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9/11/2006 (23:14) |
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Response to message 27 written by g.j.crabb
The Europeans and Russians can tell their stories with Jewish context or not. There is no particular destrustive force of Jews any more than there is of Roma, Karens, Abkhazians, Araucanians, or the Fulani.
It seems obvious to me that to calculate international intrigue using units of measure invented centuries ago is bund for inaccuracy. Does it not seem obvious to you that singlimg out an ethnic/religious group is so un-21st century??
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g.j.crabb
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Pacific Palms,
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9/12/2006 (06:17) |
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Response to message 28 written by james bailey
No Bailey, the Europeans and Russians cannot tell their stories en masse; the Jews control the media!
There are many secret graves out there of those who did endeavor to tell their stories and I suppose you have a antidote for that?
We are still witnessing this today with the Jew control of the media causing innocent authors to be jailed via these draconian terrorist laws imposed since 9/11.
And you maintain you are a Democracist... I would suggest Zionpropagist!... GJ
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james bailey
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Staten island,
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9/14/2006 (21:27) |
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Response to message 29 written by g.j.crabb
I hardly think the Jews control the media. Do they control it in Australia & New Zealand. I keep hearing Mossad stories there. Are you saying that Bush draconian fascism is as Jewish as Communism?
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