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Useful and interesting information about 'The Lobby' debate stimulated by the recent Harvard study:
Friends:
I agree with much of what Xymphora has written (see below) on
the hot topic of the new paper on the Israeli Lobby. However I have to
pause when he writes:
The problem, and it is an immense one, isn’t with American
Jews, whose sole problem is that they remain quiet while others purport to speak for
them
My own anecdotal experience is while most Zionist Jews (and non
Jews) are politically quiet on Israeli issues, nevertheless they
pretty much support just about the worst, most hard-line of Israeli
policies and human rights violations. The reason is because of their
Zionism; i.e., their belief that there should be a Jewish state in the former
Palestine.
They understand on some level that in order for there to be a Jewish state,
as JS and others have pointed out, the Israelis MUST resort to
oppression. Thus they support the hard-line even as the more liberal among them
make noises to the effect that the settlers should leave the
territories. That's the part they are quiet about -- if quiet is the right
word. Like Rabbi Michael Lerner, if they find out that there is going to be for
example, a Palestinian element to an anti- Bush or anti -war rally,
they'll stay quietly at home, or work as Lerner does, to sabotage
it.
I would emphasize the depth of their connection to a Jewish
state with all the racism and horror and war that that entails, even as it
destroys this country, not to mention the Middle East. The term dual loyalty
hardly does justice to the strength of their feeling for a Jewish state uber
alles. The irony is that one of their main rationales is that in case
things get bad for the Jews, there will be a country for them to flee to.
The irrationality of their tribal attachment is mind boggling. Has history seen
comparable instances of tribalism leading to self destruction? I suppose
it has, many times. Perhaps the new, ahistorical element, is
how such a tiny tribe can be responsible for so much worldwide tragedy
and woe. But I guess such thoughts are to be labeled anti-Semitic.
Does the Lobby represent the majority of US
Zionists? You'll get various poll numbers on different issues, but my
sense is that liberal/Left Zionists, those likely to oppose
the worst public relations blunders of the Israelis, confine their opposition to
their responses to pollsters. Once again, their basic attitude seems to be:
Well, if it is necessary to maintain a Jewish state
through the acquisition of nuclear weapons, widespread and routine
torture, preemptive attacks, massive human rights violations, so be it.
A key feature of the Mearshimer/Walt report is that it emphasizes
that supporting Israel is not good for the US. You'd think that would be a
no brainer. The essential facts are clear: Arab countries have the
oil required by the US and the world economy. Israel was plunked down
in the middle of the Arab world and immediately set on a course to
inflame the Middle East, and destroy any Arab entity or country that stood in
its way. When Egypt under Nasser tried to forge diplomatic ties to the US in the
50s, the Israelis successfully torpedoed such initiatives at every turn, and
forced Egypt to turn to the Soviets. One could go on and on to the Iraq wars and
the coming attacks on Syria and Iran to give examples of how support
for Israel has been a disaster for the US. From day one the US
has supported Israel DESPITE the harm that it has done this
country, and the world. The problem as in all such issues,
is that logic, reason, and facts cannot match the power of ideology.
--Ronald Bleier
xymphora wrote:
Saturday, March 25, 2006
Proof
of a conspiracy
The Kennedy School of Government removed its logo from Walt/Mearsheimer paper
and made more prominent a disclaimer stating that the views expressed
belong only to the authors. From The Harvard Crimson (the Sun article is here):
“Yesterday’s issue of The New York Sun reported that an ‘observer’ familiar
with Harvard said that the University had received calls from ‘pro-Israel
donors’ concerned about the KSG paper. One of the calls, the source told The
Sun, was from Robert Belfer, a former Enron director who endowed Walt’s
professorship when he donated $7.5 million to the Kennedy School’s Center for
Science and International Affairs in 1997.
‘Since the furor, Bob Belfer has called expressing his deep concerns and
asked that Stephen not use his professorship title in publicity related to the
article,’ the source told The Sun.”
As Rozwadow at Daily Kos notes:
“No need for comment. In successfully getting Harvard, with
its billions in endowment, to repudiate a tenured professor's study, they
prove the study's thesis.”
The problem, and it is an immense one, isn’t with American Jews,
whose sole problem is that they remain quiet
while others purport to speak for them (with some praise-worthy
exceptions),
but with a tiny group of American Jewish plutocrats. And I mean
tiny. We’re talking less than a hundred big political
donors, probably less than twenty-five. They have large amounts of money
to give, mostly come from the American media and entertainment industries (and
thus control their own spin), and most importantly, donate their money based on
only one issue, requiring the recipients of their donations to take a pure
Likudnik approach on the Middle East. Their donations are actually more
corrupting to the Democrats than to the Republicans, as the Democrats are much
more dependent on this particular source of money, and this dependence explains
the bizarre Democrat approach to Israel, the Iraq war, and the Middle
East. The crazy views of a handful of plutocrats are not
only destructive to American interests, they are destructive to
Israeli interests and wider Jewish interests.
By the way, did you notice that Dershowitz’ attack on
the paper is an incompetent use of much the same methodology that Norman
Finkelstein used
so devastatingly against Dershowitz himself?
*** See also Nimmo's excellent blog on the subject:
Tuesday March 21st 2006, 9:36 am
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=297
***
It looks like the subject is also too hot for NYC listener sponsored
progressive radio station WBAI (and as likely as not, the rest of Pacifica radio
as well).. Here's my letter to the producers of the program, Beyond the Pale,
which deals with these issues.
Letter to: Beyond the Pale.
beyondthepale@jfrej.org WBAI Radio,
3.26.06
Dear Esther and Marilyn:
Thanks very much for your Beyond the Pale program
today on the recent Mearsheimer/Walt paper on the Israeli Lobby. I was glad to
see that your two guests, Phyllis Bennis and Joel Beinen, addressed the central question of the
paper, whether the power of the Lobby is such that it imposes Middle East policy
on the U.S. against its best interests. In the end however, they both concluded
that the paper was wrong, that the U.S. by and large (or always) decides on
Middle East policy based on its own larger
interests.
This seems so obviously wrong on so many counts that
one can only shake one’s head and reflect on the motives of the producers in
selecting guests that would produce such an
opinion.
My best guess is that it’s a question of Zionism.
Would I be guessing wrong to view your choice of guests as a reflection of a
Left Zionist perspective which see the paper’s thesis as such a strong attack on
the legitimacy of Zionism, that no non-Zionist views can be allowed to air.
I’ve been a great fan of your show since its
inception and I’m sure I will continue to listen with interest. However, you can
imagine how disheartening it must be to feel that people for whom I have the
highest regard are essentially marginalizing fundamental issues that drive
perhaps the greatest threats to peace and stability in the Middle East and in
this country as well.
Sincerely,
Ronald
Bleier
***
Finally, it's not unlikely that the power of
the Lobby and their Zionist audience will also be too strong for Amy
Goodman and Democracy Now to touch more than gingerly.
Here's JB urging readers to write to
Democracy Now.
Readers who object to
Democracy Now!'s reporting on this issue should write to
The news item below
is hardly acceptable reporting on DN!'s part. The story is more than a few
days old and there is not a single quote from the article or its main
allegations. They should have one or both of the professors as guests on the
program next week.
*"Democracy Now!" Friday, March 24th, 2006 Headlines
for March 24, 2006
New Study Criticizes Power of Israeli
Lobby in Washington
And a dean at Harvard University and a professor at
the University of Chicago are coming under intense criticism for publishing an
academic critique of the pro-Israeli lobby in Washington. The paper charges
that the United States has willingly set aside its own security and that of
many of its allies in order to advance the interests of Israel.
In addition the study accuses the pro-Israeli lobby,
particularly AIPAC - the American Israel Public Affairs Committee - of
manipulating the U.S. media, policing academia and silencing critics of Israel
by labeling them as anti-Semitic. The study also examines the role played by
pro-Israeli neo-conservatives in the lead-up to the U.S. invasion of
Iraq.
The authors of the study, Stephen Walt, a dean at
Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, and John Mearsheimer of University of
Chicago are now themselves being accused of anti-Semitism. In Washington,
Democratic Congressman Eliot Engel of New York described the professors as
"dishonest so-called intellectuals" and "anti-Semites." Harvard professor,
Ruth Wisse called for the paper to be withdrawn. Harvard Law School Professor
Alan Dershowitz described the study as trash that could have been written by
Neo-Nazi David Duke.
The New York Sun reported Harvard has received
several calls from 'pro-Israel donors' expressing concern about the paper.
Harvard has already taken steps to distance itself from the report. Earlier
this week it removed the logo of the Kennedy School of Government from the
paper and added a new disclaimer to the study. The 81-page report was
originally published on Harvard's website and an edited version appeared in
the London Review of Books. The controversy comes less than a year after
Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz attempted to block the publication of
Norman Finkelstein's book "Beyond Chutzpah: On The Misuse of Anti-Semitism and
the Abuse of History."
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